Fear Mongering About Range Anxiety Has To Stop — CT Governor Calls Out EV Opponents::Several state governors are fighting fear mongering as they attempt to reduce transportation emissions in their states.

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    9 months ago

    Honestly, track how far you normally drive and you’ll see you don’t go that far. My PHEV has a paltry 26 mile range and we use electric only 90% of the time. An EV with 200+ miles wouldn’t be an issue unless you travel for work.

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      9 months ago

      People really like to overestimate how much range they actually need on a daily basis.

      I drive maybe 200 miles a week. Almost all EVs could easily get that range in spring/fall. And even in the worst of winter as long as I have 120 volts to keep the battery warm I’ll make it through the week no problem.

      Honestly big fast charger networks aren’t the biggest hurdle. We need basic 120v or 240v outlets ran to every apartment/town homes parking spot. With essentially a trickle from 120v you’ll be fine for 90% of your driving needs.

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        9 months ago

        I don’t think the issue is the daily basis. It’s the few long trips people take yearly that would blast that 200 mile range out. People don’t want to buy a very expensive new car that they know won’t work for them several times a year. It’s the same reason people who tow something several times a year make sure their vehicle can tow that.

        Because renting a vehicle for a trip or to tow is actually a PITA and expensive.

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          9 months ago

          It’s a hell of a lot cheaper to buy an EV with a range/capacity lower than what you need 5% of the time, and spending $40 to rent a truck/$100 to rent a car for a trip than it is to buy some ridiculously oversized battery. Sure 5% of the time it’s useful, but getting a rental isn’t that bad.

          Plus with a rental you can pick the exact type of car suits the trip well. I took a V6 camaro on a road trip for thanksgiving and that thing gets almost 30 mpg doing 80+ on the highway. Vs if I had my one size fits all Outback for that trip I’d be getting 25 doing only 70, and in the low 20s at 80 if I’m lucky.

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          9 months ago

          I know some folks that just made a cross country trip in a Tesla model Y. They don’t do huge distances every day so it took a couple of weeks but they made it just fine. They did note that the South was really bad for chargers. Something about some state legislatures or municipalities actually passing laws against public charging or something like that. It sounded pretty southern and believable though.

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          9 months ago

          I will wait in line for cheap gas at Costco a hundred times before I have to stop and charge for 30 minutes on my annual road trip.

          /s

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        9 months ago

        People really like to overestimate how much range they actually need on a daily basis.

        People really like to reframe the discussion to be about daily use when it’s almost completely meaningless in the context of maximum range.

        I’ve been on several road trips where there weren’t any chargers along my route, or that I had to make a long, several hour detour. So I ended up having to get another vehicle. Which was fine. But it’s not a non-issue either.

        And that’s with a Tesla. Any other vehicle there will be even fewer, and a good chance they won’t even be working when you get to them.

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          9 months ago

          And that’s with a Tesla. Any other vehicle there will be even fewer, and a good chance they won’t even be working when you get to them.

          This is only accurate if you are being as stubborn as possible. There are many third party, and even some first party solutions to this problem. With the right adapter, literally any EV can charge at a Tesla station.

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            9 months ago

            This is only accurate if you are being as stubborn as possible

            I don’t even know what that’s supposed to mean.

            With the right adapter, literally any EV can charge at a Tesla station.

            Currently there are only a handful of stations that support this and most of them are located on the opposite side of the country from me.

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              9 months ago

              I don’t even know what that’s supposed to mean.

              The only way it makes sense is if you’re intentionally constraining things to the most unfavorable. You’re ignoring charge stations, ignoring that EV adapters exist, ignoring portable chargers.

              Currently there are only a handful of stations that support this and most of them are located on the opposite side of the country from me.

              The adapters I’m talking about are something you just throw in your trunk and pull out when you need them. They are “universal” and don’t require support on the charger side. You just buy one for your specific car.

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                9 months ago

                The adapters I’m talking about are something you just throw in your trunk and pull out when you need them.

                There’s no such thing.