• ExLisper@linux.community
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      Well, I guess we’ll see. Currently I don’t really see how privatizing everything and opening real estate market to foreign investors helps poor children but maybe it will. My guess is that when the private corporations take over everything they will squeeze even more money out of the poor but maybe the wealth will somehow trickle down. It’s definitely an interesting experiment. My other guess is that if this fails all the libertarians will say that it’s because he implemented all the policies they like so much wrong. If he succeeds I’m definitely voting for the right wing nutjobs in the next elections.

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        8 months ago

        The historical record shows that there are no maybes about this. It’s obviously not an “interesting experiment.” There’s no sense in giving these rhetorical inches while they’re taking miles.

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          What historical record? Can you point to another country taking such a extreme turn to the right while being in similar situation? And not being met with sanctions like in Afghanistan for example. I’m genuinely curious.

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            Can you point to another country taking such a extreme turn to the right while being in similar situation?

            While that isn’t what I was talking about, Weimer Germany is the canonical example of a similar situation, but there are many examples.

            What I was talking about is the historical record of neoliberal shock therapies, which Naomi Klein documented well.

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        I guess the right wing theory is that the president makes Argentina a great place to do business, business people rush in, and wealth trickles down.

        But, that “trickle down” idea doesn’t ever seem to have actually worked anywhere. Maybe the best Argentina can hope for is that at one point when the economy is booming, the working people suddenly form or join unions and the companies decide it’s too risky / expensive to leave, so they negotiate with those unions.

        OTOH, these days it’s so easy to move corporations around to wherever the laws are the most corporation-friendly. So, even if somehow the new president does make corporations want to do more business in Argentina, it’s hard to see how the people of Argentina will really benefit.

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          I would agree if Argentina wasn’t so fucked right now. The goal is not to make Argentina great but to get out of crisis. I think what can happen is that all this drastic cuts and price hikes will lower inflation and stabilize the economy. With inflation under control and normal interest rates people will be able to start saving money again, take out mortgages and import goods. This could improve their situation if public services survive but my guess is they will end up fully owned by foreign capital at the end.

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          But, that “trickle down” idea doesn’t ever seem to have actually worked anywhere.

          If you look at Switzerland, it does, just takes long.

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        If he succeeds I’m definitely voting for the right wing nutjobs in the next elections.

        Uh, I saved this comment of yours for that one sentence.

        My views are rather libertarian, but I wouldn’t trust most of the real life libertarians (too trusting into thousands of shitcoins or excited with reading sci-fi and busy writing and discussing articles about mechanisms of anarchy in the ancap meaning of the word).

        However, if it comes to you voting for the “right wing nutjobs”, please remember that GOP in USA is not libertarian in any way, no more than Ukraine’s ruling party which uses the word sometimes.

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          I don’t live in USA. I would be voting for Konfederacja in Poland which has similar, libertarian ideas as Milei. They are always dismissed as idiots (and I tend to agree) but if Milei fixes Argentina I’m ready to eat crow and give them a chance.

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            I would be voting for Konfederacja in Poland which has similar, libertarian ideas as Milei.

            They are in a solid chummy political party with neonazis and monarchists for years. This alone should tell you what kind of libertarians they really are.

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        how privatizing everything and opening real estate market to foreign investors helps poor children

        the wealth will somehow trickle down

        Spoiler alert: it never did.