I’m new to lemmy but would like your opinion about instances like lemmy.online
Useless. It separates the content from OP so they never see replies. Worse than spam, spam at least has a point to it.
An actual bot can be coded to post every few hours, or even only post if a non bot hasn’t posted in x amount of time
What’s worse is when a real human takes posts from reddit and spams them for a couple hours all over Lemmy.
I have no idea how many accounts I’ve blocked for spamming “memes” like that, but it’s safely in the double digits.
The NSFW subs are horrible about it. Someone makes a new one and then posts dozens of pictures that all show up at once.
Even worse is the “sfw” ones.
There was one account that made like 5 general ones for celebrities, and then a specific sub for every celebrity. So if he posted once, he posted 5 times in a row.
When I blocked him, there was like 100+ subs. It made browsing /all unbearable.
Worse than spam, spam at least has a point to it.
Ehh, it’s very clearly labeled for what the purpose is and it’s also easy to block (if someone is using the NEW feed and is affected by the volume of posts).
Some people want the functionality of the bot and a big part of the Fediverse is to bring control of a platform back to the user. Lemmit is providing that functionality the right way
Repost bots are a soulless, sad attempt to bloat Lemmy with content.
Looks at !Superbowl@lemmy.world vs !Capybara@lemmy.smeargle.fans.
Both are clones of their Reddit counterpart, but Superbowls has actual fresh content from users here on Lemmy, and is quite active as a result.
Capybaras is just sad reposting from Reddit. Each post has little to no engagementThe word “content” I think is the problem. I’m not here for content, I’m here for discussion.
I block them all. If I wanted reddit content, I’d still be on reddit.
It’s a double-edged sword IMHO. On one hand, it means that people on Lemmy don’t need to give reddit any clicks / traffic in order to read the same stuff, but on the other hand, the sheer amount of reddit reposted content can easy drown out actually original content on Lemmy that might have been equally or more interesting. And if it looks like Lemmy content is 99% cloned stuff from reddit anyway, there’s no real incentive to prefer Lemmy content over reddit. Not many people actually take the time and dig deep for OC inbetween reposts.
What the Fediverse needs, is lots of original content not found anywhere else, but as long as the total userbase isn’t big enough to offer that on a consistent schedule, then copypasted content is still better than NO content at all …
Personally I dislike bots tho. If an actual human decides to repost interesting things from reddit and actively participates in discussions, that’s something I can get behind. A soulless bot just copypasting random stuff… no thanks.
The problem is that 99% of the time I have to go to reddit for information, the information is in the comments, not the original post, and those dummy get brought over
They are spam bots that should be blocked instantly.
More than that, they should be banned
Banned from where? They have their own instance.
Banned from every other instance. Constant spam posting should be a bannable offence
I block all Reddit content when I see it. The bots themselves, the lemmit instances, everything.
I’ve unsubbed from any comms that had them. They all become ghost towns with zero discussion.
There are certain niches where automated mirroring is a little useful.
Game day threads, part sales (where people need to be quick) are a couple examples.
I have most post bots blocked though (lemmit, alien, lululemon, etc.).
Like others said the downsides are that they drown out original posts and discussions with authors that never respond to comments. Consequently, the not-logged-in experience on instances that “leave it up to users to block” will appear messy and full of garbage.
I think they have their place but those automated should be contained to communities that want them, easily identified, easy to block and post rate limited to reasonable levels.
A yet to be developed feature in Lemmy would be the ability to somehow “opt-in follow” automated bot posts rather than the current “opt-out” model.
I refuse to give Spez’s trainwreck another iota of engagement and feel anything that does, should be treated as suspect.
I like it to keep track of communities that don’t have enough members here to be very active. I don’t participate in the discussions, but it’s good in case some news come out that I would miss otherwise.
Lemmit.online is also good, because it actually lets you know that it’s mirroring reddit. There was another instance that was mirroring reddit including comments, without any indication. I started “participating” in the discussions until I caught on to the fact that I wasn’t getting any answers or up- or downvotes because it was just full of bots. It soon landed on my blacklist.
I think the creator of the second one you mentioned (alien.top) halted the project for the time being due to the extreme backlash they got from lemmy users about their methodology.
I completely blocked lemmit.online using the handy dandy instance block feature because i just do not give a fuck about Reddit and none of the reposted content is even good.
it fills up my subscribed/all page with so much spam that I can no longer see any of the naturally generated lemmy user content, there is zero activity on any post, and nobody on reddit will see anything if I comment.
They have their uses. In the Canadian version of r/BuildAPCsale or whatever it’s called, it’s great – get the information about the sale and a link to the product.
In r/relationships, and the entire post and discussion are about OP’s problem, they’re completely useless.
I block them because it’s pretty pointless to engage with when OP isn’t there to see your comments. On the other hand if these bots scraping reddit costs reddit money then that’s cool.
id strongly prefer if the content was fully reposted/rehosted on fediverse with no credit or links back to reddit (or imgur)
since no one seems to want to do that, fuck those bots.
Not crediting the people who made the original posts just because you don’t like the site they posted it on is pretty shitty imo
I don’t believe in crediting people generally. the fact the content is specifically from reddit or imgur isn’t the issue.
So you’re the guy who crops the watermarks off webcomics