- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.world
- europe@feddit.de
- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.world
- europe@feddit.de
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I’m not a fan of the cookie consent popups, but I do appreciate the EU actually trying to do something to protect people’s privacy. Seemingly the only major entity to do so right now.
That was my first thought as an American. It’s refreshing to see that 1. They attempted something meaningful in the first place 2. They recognize it isn’t perfect/not having the intended effect and are making adjustments.
This seems like a functioning government.
Just make it illegal to sell user data to “data partners”, and use cross site tracking.
Nobody actually “consents” to this shit. They just don’t read.
What’s annoying is the “Reject” button hidden on another page. That should be illegal.
And it actually is… Quote from the GDPR:
It shall be as easy to withdraw as to give consent.
Pretty sure it is
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It does… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No. Most of the time there is a Accept all button, but a Manage button and then another popup where you have to uncheck everything and then Save. Pretty annoying, especially on mobile
You are both correct, the law states that it has to be as easy to opt out as in, but most companies are not implementing it correctly
Yeah, they “accidentally” did it completely wrong because fuck the customers and the law.
Yeah, California is supposed to have a “Do Not Track” option. I’ve hardly ever seen it.
Do Not Track is a browser setting. You enable it in your browser settings for all websites. All it does is ask the website to please “not track” you. Most sites of course don’t even check for the setting.
The law in California is just that the privacy policy must clearly state if / how the site is honoring Do Not Track, not that it must be presented to you as an option or even actually honored at all.
Yes, and that is illegal. That is the point.
Yes annoying and also not allowed. You can tell your data protection agency which site is doing it and they will investigate.
And you know what? That’s cool. They’re not doubling down, they’re not staying the course. I’ve spent a lot of time in the EU and yeah, those cookie pop ups absolutely are annoying, but as a US citizen it’s a reminder of how the EU is trying to protect its citizens, FBFW, how the US is still bending to corporatocracy, and I am simultaneously envious and annoyed as I click “Alle Ablehnen”.
Just add 2 things:
- Cookie settings are possible to set in the browser for all pages.
- There’s a reject all button on every cookie banner.
No, just ban the collection of user data and selling to 3rd parties. Enormous fines for anyone still doing it. Destroy this entire industry please.
The EU is primarily pro-business, but that also means being against anti-competitive and underhanded business practices
The browser thing sounds like a good solution (although there must be a reason why DNT headers weren’t made legally binding, potentially as they wanted to allow people to pick and choose what cookies they allow based on what they thought was “too far” or something but that’s conjecture), however disallowing all user data will likely lead to companies not being able to advertise to people who are interested in their products, something which the EU will see as a negative and would also cause an uptick in scams and misinformation as you see in low quality advertising space at the moment
This comment got to me really late, probably to Lemmy’s distributed nature.
But I still want to add: of course business will make more money if you allow more practices, but selling personal data just has too many negative consequences.
Also low quality advertising? You mean like billboards and in the newspaper? You mean regular advertising?
I mean “[local town] grandma discovers 10 foods you never knew you should avoid” or even downright scams when I say low quality advertising
Also “negative consequences” is a bit overdramatic and I’d love you to elaborate… Really it’s down to the person’s own opinion, eg you don’t like it so you’ll reject that sort of thing, meanwhile I don’t mind it especially as a way of paying for decent quality media so I’ll allow it on some sites but not others
It would be less annoying if you could easily tell it that you don’t want garbage. Instead, when you select your preferences you have to go through a whole list of options. By the time you’re finished customizing your cookie preferences you’ve forgotten why the hell you went to the page and what the hell the page is. It’s ridiculous. It should be as simple as having two buttons: one for accepting the site’s default garbage and another for for rejecting the site’s default garbage.
The browser extension Consent-o-matic does this and was developed with money from the European Commission.
I actually just landed in the EU for the first time since 2014, and i’m honestly quite pleased with the notifications i’m getting (albeit not the ones discussed here). The first time I opened AirBnB since landing, it asked me permission for all the data it wanted to collect for targeted advertizing, and I was actually able to turn off most of it. I wish the US had the same.
The website popups are quite annoying, but those are easier to control anyway by picking better browsers and extensions.
Now don’t make it worse!
Narrator: They made it worse
They should do something about “consent platforms” using various DNS tricks and thousands of domain names to bypass/evade user blocks.
I wasn’t so bothered about some non-invasive ads a few years ago, but I absolutely despise any kind of ad now TBH, and it’s mainly down to how persistent some of these platforms are with their evasion tactics
Also pretty ironic for their popups to talk about “respecting” my privacy when these platforms literally do the opposite of that to show their popup in the first place. I will not support any of them, in any way, on my network.
As soon as I see a new one appear when browsing, I chuck it into dnsdumpster so it can get recorded with the rest of them, and then block the new list from dnsdumpster (grid icon) on my network.
There are sites that respect the “do not track” setting of the browser and just display a small timed info on your first visit that cookies have been rejected. Example: geizhals.eu geizhals.de
Not only are they annoying, they go half way to legitimising the theft of user data.
Ah. I wasn’t aware of that. Thanks!
Cookie Monster approves.
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