• helenslunch@feddit.nl
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    8 months ago

    I make coffee at home. Always have.

    But you know what is different? I don’t feel bad anymore about giving a low tip or even not tipping at all because the entire concept has been exploited and inflated to insane levels across almost every industry.

    I was prompted for a minimum 18% tip at the gas station when I bought a bottle of water and that was when I decided it was okay not to feel guilty about not tipping anymore.

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      8 months ago
      Coffee: $10
      Service fee: $3.50
      Toilet fee: $1.50
      Tip (we recommend 125-250%): -$20
      Credit card fee (10% of total):-$0.50
      Total:-$5.50
      
  • qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one
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    I tip every time I’m at a sit-down restaurant, and infrequently at other places (mostly local places, to keep them afloat - they have it harder than the food chains). That being said, if they want us to tip for just food prep and cooking, maybe make the food half-off, then we can tip them if the food is better than we thought? $5 burger…It was really good, I guess I will give them $9. $5 burger that is crap, well, it stays a $5 burger.

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        8 months ago

        I mean, that works too I guess. But, if they insist on asking for tips, that’s the only way I’m tipping at a no-service restaurant.

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    I couldn’t tell you, I stopped going to coffee bars when the coffee became more than half my hourly wage, I’ll make my own coffee thank you very much.

    Can’t even go to a McDonald’s anymore without spending at least $16, I’ve stopped going to McDonald’s and started ordering Applebee’s because if I’m spending $20 on a meal anyway I might as well spent $4 more on there two for 24 deal and get like three times the amount of food

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    We don’t really have this whole tipping thing here.

    I’ve had coffee in two places recently. One was in a hypermarket. I don’t remember what the coffee costs there, because it came free with the meal. If the restaurant staff feel they don’t get paid enough, I don’t care if they get inspiration from France and torch every car in the parking lot. You see, I go to the hypermarket by foot. It’s not that far away.

    The other place I had coffee recently was in the train. 2.80€. I certainly hope the restaurant car staff gets paid well. They’re technically railroad employees, after all. You don’t fuck with railroad workers.

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    They’ll keep it up as long as business is good. If people will pay 12$ for a latte and lines are out the door, and there are no regulations to stop price gouging and predatory behavior, why wouldn’t they?

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      8 months ago

      Lattes aren’t essential. Charging $12 for one is neither predatory nor price gouging. It’s arguably exploitatative but I don’t feel it’s our job to tell people they’re not allowed to waste their own money.

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        Acting on “what the market will bear” instead of what at cost as well as labour is predatory in that it is opportunistic in the basic definition of what makes predatory behaviour predatory. It is also gouging as it is setting a price range that can be considered exclusionary. And then to also attack a customer who feels this and speaks it can be considered victim blaming as you’re enabling these behaviours by dismissing the feedback of the victim, which again is being exclusionary by enforcing their money to be taken but not allowing they can be part of the feedback or setting boundaries of what is happening to them.

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          8 months ago

          When you call someone choosing to buy a $12 latte a victim it makes everything else you say impossible to take seriously.

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            you use ‘choice’ like $3 latte is an option. You’re bent on manipulating people so it’s hard to take you seriously.

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              You can get a latte at Dunkin donuts for $2.69 or McDonald’s for $1. Or, and this is going to blow your mind, you can live without lattes. We’re not talking about insulin ffs. How fucking entitled are you talking about a luxury item like it’s a necessity lmao

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      Oh there are definitely laws to stop price gauging but that’s for small businesses and individuals who aren’t rich.

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      8 months ago

      why wouldn’t they?

      It’s not even a matter of “why wouldn’t they,” do much as a matter of they must.

      Absent of regulations, any company that doesn’t abandon every conceivable human moral in pursuit of more profit will find itself hopelessly out-competed by the ones that do. If your every competitor is charging $12 for a latte and paying their employees starvation wages, and you charge a reasonable amount and pay your employees a decent wage, then every hour you’re in business your competitors will be making more money than you, and you will always fall behind, unless something comes along to close that gap.

      Libertarians might try to say that eventually the free market will close the gap, but adults know otherwise. The free market doesn’t give a shit about human decency, the environment, the value of mom and pop businesses, or any of that. The free market can only ever want to make more money, every year, at a faster rate of increase, every year. Forever.

      Government is the only thing that can reasonably account for how things should be. Regulations are the only reason we don’t have 80 hour work weeks and children in the mines.

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      8 months ago

      I think coffee shops should 100% be allowed to price gouge. Its a product anyone can easily make at home for pennies.

      It’s like those multi million dollar art installations that’s literally just a yellow square with a red dot in the middle.

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        8 months ago

        to be fair a setup that can make espresso drinks in the same quality league as coffee shops will cost in the range of 1000-3000€ but if you drink one cup per day then you can save that amount in a year by making coffee at home

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          8 months ago

          Well, in that case, I don’t think anyone can make the case that espresso is a necessity, so again, gouge away.

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    8 months ago

    It’s crazy to me that people spend money on coffee from restaurants. It’s literally the easiest thing to make at home for pennies.

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      I don’t own the $10000 marzocco espresso machine that produces consistent heat and pressure to brew espresso correctly and steam milk so it froths without scorching, nor do I have years of experience to do that correctly, and I’d rather meet friends out than keeping my home perfectly clean so guests can come over any time.

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        You really don’t need all that shit. An Aeropress, a french press, and/or chemex-style pour over all goes for <$50 each and isn’t particularly difficult to learn how to use. Need a kettle and a good grinder. Grinder is the only thing worth spending money on, but for this setup, even a $200 grinder is probably overkill. You just don’t want the bottom of the barrel blade grinders.

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        8 months ago

        Always enjoy yourself, but check out the bambino plus. It pulls beutiful shots with lovely crema and has a simple and excellent auto frother, all for $4-500.

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          I appreciate the recommendation but I don’t have $400 to spend on an espresso machine either 😅

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      The one thing I’ll pay for is espresso. Good espresso is incredible, and it’s nearly impossible to do well without spending over $1000. Cheap espresso makers have channeling problems, or can’t produce proper pressure, or both. You also need a very fine grind, so you’re spending even more on the higher end grinders.

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    8 months ago

    That’s weird. My coffee is way cheaper at Dunkin Donuts and it’s counter service so I don’t fucking tip them.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Wrong. You tip for counter service now. You tip the gas station attendant for ringing up your bubble gum. Soon you will tip your doctor for giving you a prescription. Thanks Obama!

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    This is why I got a cheap Aeropress and milk frother. I pay enough for my latte, and the barista makes as much as I do, stop judging me for not tipping. I tip servers, not counter workers.