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    Sorry I am unable to reply again in exhaustive detail, but:

    I have never had any significant problems using Linux native emulators on debian, set up to use sources and just be updated via sudo apt get update && sudo apt get uprade.

    As to your troubles with Nvidia hardware, thats not surprising, they are far more black box with their code than AMD is, which is why Valve partnered with them for the SteamDeck.

    As to an Android like situation, well, one, I meant fixed OS as in only one OS on the SteamDeck as opposed to multiple possible OSs, not as in immutable. SteamOS is not immutable. Its largely derived from Arch for Christs sake haha.

    But all that aside, yes your Android style situation is possible, but uh to me that seems like a good argument to stick with a SteamDeck?

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      So, to summarize:

      1. There are no problems except when there are problems
      2. Yeah, one vendor getting an unhealthy market share is bad so let’s give Valve that marketshare

      Also “immutable” is generally used to refer to how SteamOS handles package/library versions. Its an increasing push among many “user friendly” distros that I generally like. But it is also why we basically all said “Uhm… da fuq?” when ayaneo talked about running steamos. And is why they are actually running holoos (?).

      Also, it predates the vast majority of us but it is worth looking at the actual rise of Windows. A lot of the arguments you are making have direct parallels to why people should use ms-dos and later windows over a lot of the older dos OSes. Or, again, look at the rise of Google Chrome and Android. A company can start off “awesome” but end up becoming the bogeyman we all hate.

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        Ok so youre being ludicrous now.

        1. Would more accurately be stated as ‘there are no problems if you can follow basic instructions and not wildly do things you dont fully understand’

        2. This simply assumes as matter of indisputable fact that Valve having more marketshare is… bad? For… some reason? Is there some inherent reason why an extremely niche handheld basically gaming device with additional capabilities, a thing they pioneered not too long ago, is there some reason this is not entirely to be expected by a manufacturer pioneering a totally new kind of product?

        Seriously, what?

        Ok so very quickly, yes SteamOS is immutable amd I was unaware of that as I do not have literally all the free time in the world, but thats all irrelevant to the point I was making there?

        I am not equipped with enough knowledge or foresight to perfectly predict the evolution of new products markets and technology and never claimed to, and you have suddenly shifted into that frame of reference to respond to me.

        If Valve ever reverses course on being, you know, the most effective FOSS advocate in terms of getting members of the general public maybe likely to switch to FOSS to actually do so, then I will be pretty shocked and surprised.

        If they suddenly come out with some kind of obvious policy that would be very bad for FOSS in general, then I’d be critical of it.

        Companies shittifying is obviously a thing that happens in the tech industry, and I guess you see Valve laying some kind of groundwork for this. I currently disagree, but if it does happen, then everyone in FOSS will do what everyone in FOSS has always done and adapt.

        I am sorry, I would think it would make way more sense to be critical of things like what Canonical has been doing for a while now if you want to be worried about the FOSS scene.