This is what makes the Fediverse so frustrating, been using: #Kbin #FireFish #Mastodon #Friendica #IceShrimp #Lemmy.
And no, they don’t speak to one another / find one another or are able to follow / like / reply to one another as one is told the Fediverse works.
The truth: some speak to some, and it rarely works both ways. Eg. Mastodon can do a lot more interacting with Lemmy, but not the other way around.
And then there are those that defederate from their own kind / federated social network, splintering the Fediverse even further apart.
Have had to either join new servers + delete current accounts, just because the server that was suggested, happened to be a server that others chose to defederate with.
Now with many accounts + many instances, been trying to find the best place to just have one space in the Fediverse + be able to communicate, follow and interact with other Fediverse users.
Maybe it’s this is wrong, but this has been the experience for almost a year now.
If you have been here for a year, you must have been there during the huge influx in June, we came a long way since then.
It is true that similar platforms work best with each other: Lemmy with Kbin and Piefed, Mastodon with IceShrimp, Misskey etc.
I personally use mostly two accounts, one on a Lemmy instance (this one) and another with an IceShrimp instance. And I can talk to everyone on those two “sub universes”. But that’s probably expected as platform developers prefer to focus on one aspect (threads or micro blogging) at a time.
Defederation is a marginal event, especially now that Lemmy and Kbin both support instance blocking at the user level.
Thankfully, this part of the Fediverse is working…
The idea that you might want Lemmy and Mastodon to work well together is honestly kind of silly to me.
They are structured and built from the ground up to be entirely different kinds of social platforms. Mastodon is structured around people publishing their thoughts. Fundamentally it’s simply a kind of blog network. Lemmy is structured around topics and conversation. It’s essentially a forum network. I can’t see a way they could blend seamlessly, forget if they should. (They shouldn’t)
Kbin already integrates Mastodon. It’s seamless enough that I find myself commenting on people’s toots without even realising.
Can you Boost, favorite, mention, or direct message them? No not really. It’s a very limited subset of the Mastodon experience. They have vastly different feature sets, mostly without corresponding analogs. That’s not remotely what I would call seamless.
Or maybe it literally is seamless. There are lots of missing and incomplete pieces that would need to be stitched together, but aren’t.
I just checked and yes, yes, didn’t try but have seen others do so before, and yes.
That impressive then. I don’t know.
It’s a shame this is being downvoted, because I think these are interesting topics to discuss. A while back I found this article which talks about similar ideas; it’s is from a few years ago but I think makes points that are still valid. It talks about how there is a lot of ambiguity in ActivityPub, and there aren’t really standardized ways for different implementations to interact - a lot of it is ad hoc, and as you pointed out, doesn’t always work well, or may work better in one direction than the other. Hopefully it will become more standardized in the future and remove some of the ambiguity.
It’s been downvotes because it was posted multiple times (misunderstanding/technical error) but I agree. Each of the posts have different replies so it’s a shame we can’t merge them into one excellent thread.
