• Worx@lemmynsfw.com
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    9 months ago

    My diesel van struggles to start when temperatures get around freezing. That’s just a thing that happens to all vehicles. -23C (-10F) is pretty cold

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      9 months ago

      My gas car never has issues, and your diesel wouldn’t either if you plugged in the block heater. I’m a big fan of “tech” and like innovative and new stuff and all that, but I also think all electrics are a huge waste right now. Small inner city all electrics with like a 75 mile range is not bad, but the 200+ mile ones are just asking for problems. Batteries are too heavy, too big, and just don’t last long enough. Needing a new $20,000 battery to make a 15 year old car work again is never a good idea. Here in the next 5 years (now that electrics are about to age out) people are really going to start seeing the issue.

      I’m sticking to gas or hybrids for now. Cheaper to keep the older ones on the roads. Current lithium batts just aren’t high enough on their cycle count.

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        9 months ago

        your diesel wouldn’t either if you plugged in the block heater.

        You know EVs have heaters too? Only like 10x more powerful.

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          9 months ago

          I find it funny you didn’t point out that if you can plug in a block heater, you can plug in the ev.

          But yes, ev usually have better heaters, though they use the battery for that unless they’re plugged into a large enough charger to offset that energy drain.

      • FrederikNJS@lemm.ee
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        9 months ago

        The 15 years to dead battery figure you mention is wildly out of proportion.

        Everything points to current batteries degrading less than 5% over 10 years… So even at 15 or 20 years there would still be plenty of battery health left.