• pHr34kY@lemmy.world
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    Road taxes should increase after certain dimensions and weights. Bonnet/hood height should be one.

    Also, safety ratings should give equal weighting to the a vehicle’s impact absorbtion and impact contribution. It’s insane that something is considered safe solely because the occupant is protected.

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    It is honestly a major failure of US society (comedians I am looking at you) that people aren’t made fun of for driving these trucks so mercilessly that most people feel too ashamed to drive them.

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      Definitely. Builders and contractors in Europe drive vans; same as everyone else on the planet except the insecure yanks. If you pulled up to a site in one of these in any other country, I fuckin guarantee remarks will be made about your penis size and your penchant for the cock

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      The point being it’s the owners that are buying these cars because they want to kill pedestrians or the designers intentionally create them with higher bonnets specifically to kill pedestrians?

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        The point being that owners are buying these vehicles to be the “winner” in any collision that may happen, and that includes with pedestrians.

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    We got rid of pop-up headlights because they were causing pedestrian deaths, but I don’t think we’ll do anything about these monstrosities because not only are they deadly, they’re not fun. And our regulators want to prevent fun more than they want to prevent death.

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      Not quite right. They became common due to a combination of aerodynamics and lamp height restrictions. Especially in the US, which used to require one of a small list of sealed beam designs which weren’t at all aerodynamic. They are still technically legal, but difficult to integrate with protrusion restrictions. The US also dropped the sealed beam restriction decades ago, so there wad no point in trying.

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    The automotive industry must be jealous of firearms killing so many Americans, so they’re upping their game to really push us into an increasingly dystopian world.

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      They really just want us to actually be living in Mad Max world, all guns and cars and “guzzoline.” They all fancy themselves an Immortan Joe.

      Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!

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    Last time I was visiting family in Toronto, I noticed the speed limit on major streets had been lowered to 40 kph (25 mph). So the same as residential streets, in other words.

    I asked my brother about this. He said that in spite of measures taken by the city to improve infrastructure, pedestrian and cyclist fatalities were on the way up due to the heavier and higher off the ground vehicles people drive today. The city admitted they did not expect people to drive that slow, but if they could start ticketing people doing over 60, that might save some lives? It’s pretty sad.

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    pedestrian deaths

    I believe they call those “bonus points”.

    Brought to you by someone who ripped the mask right off your face, before the vaccine existed.

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        I have yet to actually be killed by it yet - so far - but several drivers seem to enjoy getting WITHIN INCHES of my body as I walk through a crosswalk, sometimes in heavy snow in sub-freezing temperatures where I struggle to even walk while they enjoy their climate-controlled cockpit with all the comforts of home, yet still want to shave off a few seconds of their commute. This has happened in both areas that heavily lean Democrat as well as ones that heavily lean Republican. In the former it is usually a smaller Lexus or BMW, while in the latter it is usually a giant vehicle, either truck or SUV. Also from what I have been told, the concept of “soccer mom” is a real one - a tiny person who can barely see over the wheel of a vehicle not made for tiny people, who drives perhaps once a month when their rotation comes up, not bothering to adjust the vehicle better for them, or to practice more often to become a safer driver.

        In all of the above, as with the virus, the underlying attitude (whether rich or poor, liberal or conservative, whatever) is the same: I want MY way, the rest of you can deal with it as best you can - or die, whatever.

        Somehow this idea of people abusing their vehicles with extreme negligence in the form of literally running over children like they are in a video game offends people’s sensibilities, yet the same identical thought applied elsewhere gets the opposite reaction. e.g. if you knew that you had COVID, and you visit someone anyway (your >80-year-old grandparents?; crucially: before the vaccine existed) over their explicit objection that you only come if you have no symptoms, and then they die, how is that not “murder”, or at least a form of almost murderous negligence? Not only did MANY people die (or get long-term symptoms) from exactly and precisely this scenario (a wedding, a funeral, a party or church service, etc.), but it also spread the pandemic much faster than it would have otherwise, flying in the face of the “flatten the curve” advice from scientists, affecting whole entire schools, churches, hospitals, and entire communities by the actions of just a few.

        This is also btw the identical reason why groceries cost so much right now: they want to get THEIR way, so they just… do.

        This is why society has rules: to provide a guiding light showing us how we all need to behave, or else experience the consequences (though anyone can be MORE friendly than those mandate, at any time). Hence why we might want an evidence-based policy on vehicles with higher hoods. Because people are literally dying here. We’ll see if anyone cares, more than simply saying platitudes I mean, in the sense of taking any action to help stop it.

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    What about school busses? They have very high hoods and many danger areas where the driver cannot see, right?

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        The craziest part about that too, is that militaries typically acknowledge these poor sight lines and have procedures in place. I drove a Bison in the Canadian Army, and we had to have either a crew command (up higher on the vehicle with a better view) or a ground guide (literally a personal walking in front of the vehicle).

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      Most of the buses around me (both school and other buses) have flat fronts, which give essentially zero front blind spot. I don’t think I’ve seen a long bus that was shaped like that in a long time (at least around where I live)

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        Interesting, I did not know that.

        I hope now that cameras are cheap and common that they will start adding them to busses to cover those blind spots. Not a perfect solution, but better than nothing.

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    They know. And those vehicle owners like to bully people and other cars with that.

    Tax it hard like a luxury tax or vice tax.

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    No shit? I forget where I saw the comparison but the length of the view that is blocked when being in a big ass truck is absolutely insane. There could be a gaggle of kids in front of you cb’s you would never know until you hit them.

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      They also seriously injure the people they do hit.

      A car tends to hit low and send people onto the hood. A truck hits high (head and torso injuries) and knocks people to the ground where they get run over.

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      Modern trucks have shitty visibility all the way around. I borrow my dad’s Colorado and my boss’s F-150 frequently and I always feel like I’m driving a school bus and feel like I can’t see shit. They have backup cameras but it’s not that great(and the idea that a backup camera should be required to operate a vehicle safely in the first place is abhorrent to me anyway). I never had any issues with my S10 back in the day and I could fit more shit in the bed.

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        There’s another extreme, when a friend of mine took me for a ride in a two-seat convertible BMW X2 it felt like I was barely above ground. When one of the SUVs was near us at a traffic light it felt like it was going to run over us without even noticing

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          it felt like it was going to run over us without even noticing

          Yeah that’s because they have shitty visibility. Also the reason I’ll never ride a motorcycle in traffic.

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        I mentioned this is another comment, but the crazy thing is that’s the driver’s view from M1 Abrams. Typically, in hatches open operation you’d either have a Crew Commander (and/or gunner) standing with their torso out of the turret for better visibility (and a second set of eyes), or a ground guide watching where you go.

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          Perhaps we should introduce a commander’s hatch to help large pickup trucks safely navigate around neighborhoods.

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      I just biked home and cars were in the bike lane for 90% of it. The plows pulled all the reflectors off the road and now drivers can’t tell where the lanes are. Even though that entire lane is the dedicated right turn lane, they go in the bike lane. When we had snow a few days ago, pedestrians were in the road because the snow was plowed into the bike lane and sidewalk. Fuck 99.9% of US and Canadian infrastructure

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      In the US that is. In many other western countries, pedestrian infrastructure is awesome and advanced. On the other hand, they usually also don’t have many of these trucks. Double whammy for US pedestrians.