Inspired by a hateful egg in-denial of her femininity, who calls herself a femboy.
Meme template: Skeletor Until we Meet again
Top Text: Remember kids, Femboys are trans girls in denial, they are not cis no matter what they say. Do what you can to help break them out of their egg.
Bottom Text: Until we meet again
Let people decide for themselves, you creep.
You don’t get to decide someone else’s gender identity, this is hate speech.
How is it “hate speech” to be supportive and help people who are in-denial of their womanhood come out and accept themselves? Seems to me that you’re trying to push back against trans acceptance, FYI that’s incredibly transphobic.
Saying everyone in a category you’ve picked out is in denial isn’t being supportive, it’s being condescending and oblivious tbh
@silasmariner Oh look, another transphobe…
Hey Bitch I’m a trans woman, if you think I’m transphobic because you disagree with me you got bigger problems m8
@CheesyCheese1 Does lemmy have a problem with replies? That was supposed to go to https://programming.dev/u/silasmariner not you… Second time this has happened when I reply to a lemmy post… :blobfoxthinking:
You mentioned me, and it sent a notification. Maybe you shouldn’t mention people if it has nothing to do with them also maybe not fling blanket accusations if you don’t want them challenged, food for thought.
@CheesyCheese1 lol, ok. and you’re just gonna ignore the part where i replied specifically to one person and sending a message mastodon -> lemmy apparently messed that up? you sure are an asshole, whatever else you are…
I’m not transphobic afaik, but I think it’s ok to let people self-define, y’know? Isn’t that what it’s all about? I mean, there are so many ways to be…
Just a heads up, I feel like this person is a troll, they called me a transphobe for a similar reason, claimed I was a ‘fascist femboy’ don’t give what they say too much merit, just report them and move on.
This thinking is hateful and dangerous.
Are there trans women who have previously experimented with being a femboy? Definitely.
Are there femboys that for one reason or another are actually trans but in denial? I’m sure they exist.Is every femboy an egg? Hell no. There’s plenty that are happy with their gender identity. In fact, thanks to them being able to be in touch with their feminine side, they probably know pretty well if they feel like a man or a woman. Don’t push femboys to transition, but be supportive if they want to explore the possibility.
incredibly bad post ngl
How so? You gotta realize that a “man” who dresses and acts fem isn’t entirely cis, such activity would almost certainly give a cis man extreme dysphoria.
You have no idea what is going on in peoples’s heads no matter what you decide it looks like from the outside ¯_ (ツ) _/¯
You dropped this \
People’s behaviors make it pretty obvious, why else would a “boy” act like, dress as, and try to look like a woman if they feel they are a cis male? I used to be like that when I was younger, people would question my taste in feminine things and I would insist I was a boy and that it’s normal but it’s not normal and I wasn’t a boy. It would’ve been easier for me though if someone had broken my egg sooner.
Baby boop you’ve gotta let people choose their best paths. Just cause a guy wears pink or gets piercings or paints his nails or wears a skirt doesn’t make him a trans girl. All of those thing or “normal” are just things you and other people choose to associate with being a woman. Let the people be free babes!
You think someone who wants HRT so they can have boobs is still cis even though they say they are? Where do you draw the line? These obviously aren’t normal cis things to do and someone who has the desire to do them should at the very least question to evaluate why they like it so much, and why they still think they are a boy, most cases they only feel male because they’re afraid of being trans or don’t think it’s an option.
Well I draw the line where they draw the line, if they say they’re cis I believe them if they say they’re trans I believe them. Easy as!
This is pretty gross
Are you sure you used the template right? You’re supposed to use it to say something funny, not something only evil Skeletor would say.
How is it evil though, it’s true. Wearing skirts, makeup, paining nails, etc. aren’t very cis things to do (unless you’re a woman and AFAB) just sayin it’s a little eggy.
This post has 4chan brain worms all over it.
ITT: People have complex philosophical disagreement about essentialist vs pluralistic conception of identity, then call each other out for hate speech.
While I disagree with OP, I think it’s quite obvious she’s not acting out of malice. I know this is the internet, but let’s try and assume good faith, shall we?
Thats very gender essentialist. Gender expression is not the same AS gender identity. Don’t push your own experiences on others. I for example never had a femboy-phase and am still trans femm. Does this make me less trans? A trans guy who likes dresses, is he less of a man? No! What about non binary people? You basically say that femininity is not for men which is bullshit. People don’t always know their gender or are exploring, but identity changes with your own idea of self. If you say “I’m a femboy” and then later on say “I’m a trans girl”, both are true because Identity can change! If you say I Identify as lesbian, later on then discover that ur bi, that doesn’t mean ur previous Identity was wrong, it just means that u now identify differently. If someone says they identify with a gender, than that’s that. You don’t get to tell them they are wrong.
Identity can change!
That is such a load of shit and also very transphobic, identity can’t change, just because I was a stupid egg in-denial doesn’t mean I wasn’t a girl and doesn’t mean I wasn’t trans, you saying this implies that people weren’t really trans before coming out which is not only wrong but incredibly transphobic.
Look, Identity is what u identify as. If you identify differently then that’s ur new identity. If You say you are a trans woman and had a femboy phase where you were in denial, than your identity is a tran woman who was always a trans woman but was previous in denial. That’s a valid identity.
So let’s say there is a amab who likes feminine things. They get rejected by geneeal society, but feels comfy in queer settings. But now people say: Hey! Ur trans! Take hormones it will make you happy! There’s two ways this can go, but if it wasn’t completly their own decision but peer pressure. And peer pressure which changes your body for live is extremely toxic.
I understand that you are mad that there wasn’t somebody who told you: Hey, you are an egg, just accept yourself as trans, its okay to be trans. I wish that it was that easy. But after starting hormones, sometimes there are doubt’s “what if I’m not really tans”? etc. And if you can push the decision to other people that just makes it worse. " I only started hormones because of the other person, she told me I would be happier. I’m not happier, I hate her"
Being trans is about taking your future, your body, your Identity in your own hands. Giving a big fuck to society and proclaim yourself to the world. Its not about saying “this makes you trans”, " that makes you trans", its about “this makes me happy”
And please write stop writing that aggressive. I’m attacking your post, not you as a person. I will probably stop responding because it stresses me out.
An identity almost definitionally can change because it’s what someone identifies as. It’s not necessarily transphobic to believe that, again it’s all about letting people choose what makes them happiest!
It’s also fine to think that being trans is more than an identity, but that’s more of a theoretical or analytical (and complicated) discussion .
For political and simplistic purposes just allowing people to choose their identities has all the practical benefit we need.
yeah this post is not ok.
celebrate your journey, but don’t force it on others.
you never crack anyone else’s egg. ever.
Maybe don’t make sweeping generalisations about other people’s gender. Just because you had that experience doesn’t mean everyone had it, people are different
Hi not exactly a femboy since I’m Agender but I do still use the label occasionally. This meme is very hurtful to gender non-conforming people, who are most certainly not trans girls in denial (especially transmascs and nonbinary people). It is important to respect people’s gender identities, and while I do understand that discovery is important I do not believe that people should have an identity forced on them, which is what you’re doing by saying that all femboys are trans girls in denial who need to be forced out. The thing is if we believe people are valid we need to listen to them and respect the gender they identify as and not systematically invalidate them based on their actions and argue that they are semantically trans or in-denial, I don’t know about you but I don’t want to live in a world with provisions to invalidate my identity because someone else thinks my actions don’t match some stupid preconceived notion of a gender.
Oh and before someone tries to argue that I’m a transphobe because “gender isn’t a choice” I will say that, yes Gender is not a choice but that doesn’t mean what most people think it means, it means that gender identity is internal and personal and can’t be changed by others pressuring you. It does not mean that a person who does X is semantically trans whether they like it or not. Gender identity is based on how the person feels, not what other people think of their actions relation to gender. So with that knowledge it is very clear that this post violates that principle by trying to force a gender identity onto someone who isn’t comfortable or okay with it, based on your opinion about them and your own past experience.
