Swift's US adult fan base is larger than the 2020 presidential vote, is unafraid to "go low," and has a long history of sending death threats.
        • zergtoshi@lemmy.world
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          5 个月前

          That’s what I thought about George W. Bush once upon a time.
          Since that I’ve learned that I lack imagination.

      • lingh0e@sh.itjust.works
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        5 个月前

        For the purpose of this discussion, let’s take her lack of political experience off the table entirely.

        I’m not a fan of her music by any stretch of the imagination, but she’s got to one of the hardest working people in the industry with some of the best people working for her. In other words, she’s everything Trump pretends to be, but for real.

        She is LEGITIMATELY massively successful and became so while intentionally staying out of politics. She’s a real version of everything the MAGA goons pretended made Trump a qualified candidate: an outsider who has their own money and is therefore immune to lobbying and/or corruption.

        So by MAGA’s own metric, she’s ABSOLUTELY qualified for the position.

  • Nobody@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 个月前

    “Donald Trump and his far-right ‘holy war’ against Taylor Swift could cost him the next presidential election.”

    News from a completely normal and not broken at all timeline. Imagine reading that sentence to someone 10 years ago.

    • Conyak@lemmy.tfEnglish
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      5 个月前

      I feel like that headline would be completely normal during the 80s satanic witch hunt.

      • Daxtron2@startrek.website
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        5 个月前

        I think they’d be confused about why a real estate celebrity is going after a 1 year old girl but yeah not too far off

    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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      5 个月前

      10 years ago was still 2 years left in the final Obama administration. Add on just a bit more to really drive those 2014 people crazy:

      “After an unsuccessful violent insurrection to stay in the White House after being voted out, Donald Trump and his far-right ‘holy war’ against Taylor Swift could cost him the next presidential election.”

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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          5 个月前

          We’re past Idiocracy. President Camacho listened to the smartest person in the room. Trump thinks he is the smartest person in the room.

          • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
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            5 个月前

            Trump knows he’s not the smartest person in the room. Trump wants to claim to be the smartest person in the room, and enjoys watching nobody correct him. That makes him feel like the most powerful person in the room. He doesn’t care who the smartest is, as long as he gets to claim it and all the credit for everything smarter people do near him.

              • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
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                5 个月前

                That’s part of the kink. He says that so that smart people who want to work for him will tell him they think he is smarter than they are. It’s a power move. Like the handshake thing.

                • I'm back on my BS 🤪@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  5 个月前

                  After I got out of a relationship with a malignant narcissist, I realized that everything they do and say is a power move. They live in a world without objective reality. They cannot tell the truth because they function for a delusion. While you are thinking that you’re having a conversation sharing ideas, they’re observing you up and down to measure your strengths, weaknesses, social power, and threat to their social power. They listen intently to create a character they will present to you so that you enmesh with them. They run little secret experiments to learn how you react to things. Once they’ve figured you out, you’re going to have a bad time. The sad thing is that underlying all this, is that they feel deeply insecure. They confuse envy for love. The more of an asshole a malignant narcissist is, the more they’re telling the world they’re insecure because the more they want people to envy them, which means the more they need love in their delusional world. Trump is extraordinarily insecure.

  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    5 个月前

    Swift’s US adult fan base … is unafraid to “go low”

    The fan base is very large and in any group of that size there are going to be enough people willing to “go low” to form a mob. That doesn’t mean that the average Swift fan is more willing to “go low” than the average person who isn’t her fan. (I’m pretty sure that the average Swift fan is less willing to “go low” than the average Trump supporter.)

    • root_beer@midwest.socialEnglish
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      5 个月前

      I doubt the average Swiftie is willing to decapitate a family member, yes

      [sure, that guy is seriously mentally ill but it’s a very low bar for those people]

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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          5 个月前

          As a MSTie as well, I am very happy about that. Anyway, MST3K is all about appropriating other people’s work!

          • Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
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            5 个月前

            In case you don’t know, they’ve been doing a livestream of episodes on Twitch and YouTube since before Christmas, mixed with some RiffTrax and Cinematic Titanic! I’ve had it on in the background for weeks.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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              5 个月前

              Thank you, I do know! I’m very active on the MST3K forums. I tune in to the livestream once in a while, but we also have group watches on Fridays which mostly scratches that itch for me… I’m just hoping Joel makes some sort of announcement about where the show is going now that the crowdfunder has failed, but he’s been quiet about it and some other Alternaversal staff seem to have left their jobs or have been fired, so I’m kind of worried. That said, 13 seasons of any show is pretty incredible.

  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 个月前

    After 8 years of whatever Democrats claim they’re doing, Donald Trump may have finally encountered opponents who are interested in fighting back.

    • pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online
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      5 个月前

      I really, really want the history books to say that Taylor Swift was responsible for Trump losing by a landslide.

      It’s oddly fitting for this cursed timeline

          • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            5 个月前

            You would prefer [strawman]?

            If you’re going to argue with me, argue with me, not the fictional version of me you’ve constructed.

            • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              5 个月前

              Donald Trump is by definition a demagogue and proto-fascist. Given the opportunity, and using the document the GOP drafted entitled “Project 2025”, we can see that a 2nd Trump administration would dismantle the system of checks and balances that provide equality across the 3 branches of government in favor of a unilateral (authoritarian) executive branch. So it’s not a strawman, it’s what the GOP has announced they’ll do in 2025 should Trump retake the WH.

              • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                5 个月前

                Then maybe Democrats should actually fight against it, like I said, instead of making a huge deal about half-assed efforts.

                None of that means I want Republicans to win or accomplish their goals. Now point to something else Republicans want and baselessly accuse me of wanting it too because I don’t buy your apologia for Democrats’ deliberate uselessness.

  • RedditReject@lemmy.world
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    5 个月前

    The difference between Swift and Trump is that Taylor understands she needs to give back to her fans, in music and performances. Trump just sees his fans as providing something for him, their money in donations and ego boosts.

  • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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    5 个月前

    Ok… Part of me is having trouble not believing that Trump is trying to tank his entire campaign, while making it look like he’s not trying to tank his entire campaign. Like, I don’t think he really wanted to win last time, and I think having experienced the job he wants it even less this time, but he has to actually campaign and make a good show of it both for ego and staving off jail time reasons, so maybe he’s waking up every morning going “…ok what if I wear a really obvious diaper under my pants? Maybe that’ll make them stop voting for me…”

    But most of me is just realizing, nah, he is actually legitimately making choices that are that stupid.

    • AA5B@lemmy.world
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      5 个月前

      If it’s good enough for DeSantis to tank campaign creating fake drama vs cultural stars, it’s good enough for Trump

  • lennybird@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 个月前

    I really feel this is a Streisand Effect taking action. There’s no way this doesn’t make Taylor Swift more political.

    Her voter-turnout drives will be massive for the election.

    Oh and if you hear any of these people complain about celebrities, remind them that they got Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair at the RNC in some demented rant.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    5 个月前

    Watching Kimmel’s monologue from yesterday-

    The same people who believe Joe Biden has dementia and needs Kamala Harris to feed him butterscotch tapioca every night also believe that he has somehow planned and executed a diabolicalically brilliant scheme to fix the NFL playoffs so the biggest pop star in the world can pop up on the jumbotron during the Superbowl in between a Kia and a Tostitos commercial to hypnotize her 11-year-old fans into voting for Joe Biden.

  • Red_October@lemmy.world
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    5 个月前

    Donald Trump is losing the war against his own stupid mouth, of course he’s not going to win against the Swifties.

  • SeedyOne@lemmy.ca
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    5 个月前

    It wasn’t Bill & Ted but actually Ms. Swift that might unite and save the future. What a timeline.

  • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 个月前

    It will be so wild if the only reasons we manage to avoid fascism and authoritarian takeover in 2024 end up being weed and Taylor Swift.

    • Ook the Librarian@lemmy.world
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      5 个月前

      You know what? It’s kinda nice that it may come down to mainstream culture to bring this poison down. It just highlights how different our culture is from our politics. I’m not sure I have point.

      • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 个月前

        You do very much have a point, and it’s well made, considering that it’s just another way of pointing out that our elected representatives are completely out of touch with the majority of citizens they purport to represent. If our politics is different from our culture, it’s because our politicians are different from our people – and that should not be the case in a representative democracy.