Denver police have arrested a 13-year-old boy accused of fatally shooting a man whose leg was blocking the aisle on a public bus.

  • TherouxSonfeir@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    7 months ago

    You’re just clutching your pearls thinking “Children with guns in polite society? Good heavens!!!”

    Stop this nonsense. You only hear about the USA because you are on USA focused social media and you can’t speak any language used in Asia, Africa, or South America where they have 13 year olds with machine guns.

    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      Lmao how America-brained do you have to be to say that thinking 13 year olds having guns is a bad thing is “pearl clutching”

      No. 13 year olds should not have guns.

      And I’m from Asia you nitwit. I speak a couple of Asian languages, as well as a couple of European ones, such as the one I’m speaking now.

      Asia does not have a gun problem. Africa does not have a gun problem. You made that up and tbh it just sounds like racist dog whistle - “those uncivilised darkies and slit-eyes are violent savages! Their children have machine guns! No I don’t have any proof, don’t ask!”

      South America yeah, particularly Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia. And so does the US. Forgive me for having higher expectations of the highest GDP country in the world than I do of fucking Venezuela.

      Children should not have tools designed expressly for quick and easy murder. If you think otherwise, cool. Have a good think about it next time you’re on the bus and a child shoots you when you do something to mildly inconvenience him.

        • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          edit-2
          7 months ago

          I didn’t.

          And the facts I have you spoke for themselves.

          Come on. Where’s your evidence of Asia and Africa having gin problems? Of kids with machine guns?

            • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              edit-2
              7 months ago

              Gotta give you credit, it was very clever of you to link to an article without any real stats, but which makes it sound really rife.

              It was a good try, but no.

              United States: 11 gun deaths per 100k.

              South Africa: 6 gun deaths per 100k.

              South Africa is the most violent place in Africa by far and still has a gun homicide rate that’s roughly half of the US.

              • TherouxSonfeir@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                7 months ago

                So if there isn’t a chart it must be fake news? Okay boomer.

                I think our interactions have come to a conclusion on this one.

                • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  7 months ago

                  Why are you putting words in my mouth?

                  You posted an article with no real stats, and you cherrypicked one of the most violent countries on the planet.

                  I provided real stats to compare them and still the US’s rate was almost twice as high!

                  I don’t think you understand what the “ok boomer” meme is.

                  • TherouxSonfeir@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    0
                    ·
                    7 months ago

                    link to an article without any real stats, but which makes it sound really rife.

                    No stats, must not be really rife.

      • TherouxSonfeir@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        7 months ago

        What are their parameters though? Rwanda had a pretty violent genocide where 800k+ people died. I’m sure most of that was gun violence. Does that not count? Gaza is a hotbed for gun violence.

        Anyone can find statistics to argue their point.

        • BreakDecks@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          7 months ago

          We’re counting state violence now? Are you sure you want to include that statistic in defense of America? Our military has a 7-figure body count so far for the 21st century…

        • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          7 months ago

          I can’t believe France’s gun homicide rate doesn’t even include all the shootings in WW1 😡😡😡

          These stats are unamerican commie propaganda 😡😡😡

            • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              edit-2
              7 months ago

              Nice deflection. Completely ignoring the comment.

              And no thanks, you don’t seem particularly interesting. Just a run-of-the-mill US conservative. They’re ten a penny.

              • TherouxSonfeir@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                7 months ago

                Nice try calling me a conservative. Everyone who challenges you on your views must be a conservative.

                I understand, I’ve got you in my “Must be MAGA” category too.

                • BreakDecks@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  7 months ago

                  I mean, you’re giving us the standard American Exceptionalist rigamarole. If conservative doesn’t describe you, maybe reflect on the kinds of things that you’re saying that would convince people otherwise.

                  • TherouxSonfeir@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    0
                    ·
                    7 months ago

                    Clearly I’m doing a poor job communicating. Using exact quotes from me, can you show me how I am giving you American exceptionalism, when all of my comments—to me—are saying America is not unique to gun violence.

                • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  7 months ago

                  Talks usual conservative talking points

                  Casually uses racist dog whistle against Asians and Africans

                  Has extensive post history in a sub called “conservative”

                  “Nice try calling me conservative” 🤡

                  And again dodging the actual content of my reply. Interesting.

                  • TherouxSonfeir@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    0
                    ·
                    7 months ago

                    Did you read my comments in the conservative community? You should, because you’ve got me all wrong.

                    All this is because of…

                    People under 18 getting hold of firearms and behaving like idiots with them is something that gets reported on frequently in the US and pretty much the US alone.

                    Something that gets reported on… in the news that you see. You don’t read all the news.

                    At this point it’s pretty clear you’re foaming at the mouth, so I’m going to block you. I suggest you do the same to me. Have a wonderful night.

    • v_krishna@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      Really only South America (actually mostly central America and Brazil) and South Africa, Mali and Somalia fit into that stereotype. The rest of Africa and all of Asia (except Thailand, which is still significantly lower than the US) have very low rates of gun violence.

      • TherouxSonfeir@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        7 months ago

        Some are higher, some are lower. I’m not trying to comment on stereotypes, I’m just saying the person pushing “USA is the only country with gun violence” (paraphrase) just can’t see past their nose.