• pigginz@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    It’s gonna be pretty bad but that “50% of humanity” figure seems like a total ass pul. As far as I can tell, it’s based on the assumption that fossil fuels and fossil fuel derived fertilizers and stuff for modern industrial agriculture will very suddenly run out (for…reasons?) and industrialized agriculture will just completely collapse globally because it won’t develop alternative methods or anything.

    I’m skimming over a bunch of articles on this site and it feels very doomsday cultish. I might keep digging later but a lot of the logic in these arguments seems to be based on absolute confidence in some questionable predictions.

    • rainpizza@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      8 months ago

      Thanks for skimming through the article! Also, it would be great to have your thoughts on their adaptation suggestions such as ClimateSafe village and migrating to solid climate resilient locations.

      • QueerCommie@lemmygrad.mlM
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        8 months ago

        I haven’t read what the article has to say on that, but it sounds like “you know you’re doomed, but since we can’t do anything here’s how you can escape to a slightly less fucked place if you have some money.”

        • rainpizza@lemmygrad.mlOP
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          8 months ago

          Interestingly, they say the following:

          If we cooperate and get started now, we can still be prepared for the critical 2025-2031 threshold. From 2025-2031, climate change consequences will go from their current linear progression into an exponential progression because of many climate change tipping points crossed and climate feedback loops triggered. From what I could rescue from their section on adaptation, they hit the nail on the head when they mention the importance of organizing.

          Here is the part where it mentions the proposed solution of ClimateSafe Villages -> https://www.joboneforhumanity.org/the_four_kinds_of_universe_communities#stay Sadly, some adaptability suggestions are hidden behind membership wall. Thoughts? Love to get your insights from this and to know if this is realistic to consider.

          • QueerCommie@lemmygrad.mlM
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            8 months ago

            Lol of course they have a paywall. Yes there are architectural things and so on that can increase your resilience, however their conditions for recommended climate migration are temporary (age/child status) and rich people will probably do it anyway. Their recommendations make it sound like they don’t believe what they’re saying. “We’re going to die in five years and everyone has been lying to you, but just leave society and pressure your government and you’ll be fine.” I will choose to assume they are in good faith and just unable to think beyond liberal solutions, but we Marxists actually know the real solutions. In the words of Gramsci, “what is to be done? Nothing more than to destroy the present form of civilization.” Not much can be taken from this cite beyond a renewed urgency for action, to prepare your community for climate change’s inevitable consequences, and organize for socialism.