Personally, I’m not a fan of either, so it’s always been a little interesting to me to run into people that are more averse to hearing a recording of their voice.
(Also is there a dedicated term for audio-only voice recordings? 🤨)
You get used to seeing yourself in a mirror.
Most people don’t listen to their voice nearly as often as they look in a mirror.
I was interviewed this morning on my local stations morning radio show and I refuse to listen to it lol.
Ooh, what about?
I worked/work on a bunch of movies and shows as a hobby and had tremendous luck with it and got to experience some cool shit. Got a small line in killers of the flower Moon and worked as Martin Starr’s permanent stand in on Tulsa King for 8 months and he and I got pretty close and took shrooms together and shit so I had a bunch of funny stories about crazy shit I’ve seen it been involved in on set. It’s a comedy morning show on our major rock station in Tulsa. And we basically spent 20 minutes with me telling stories of some of the crazy shit I’ve done or seen and a good portion of it was spent talking shit about Leonardo DiCaprio because he’s truly an asshole in real life and just stuff like that it was a good time. It totally came out of the blue. They just kind of text me and said hey we heard this about you. Would you want to come on and talk about it? And I was like fuck yeah why not.
What a cool experience and sounds like fun times were had! I had such a huge crush on DiCaprio when I saw Romeo+Juliet eons ago so it’s interesting to hear he’s a douche.
Does Lemmy have an AMA? You should do an AMA.
Yeah it’s been a ride, I’ve had a blast. I would do one of I thought anyone really cared lol
You get used to seeing yourself in a mirror.
You do?? 😦
Like, actually, legitimately?
Except when on shrooms, yeah. Do you not have mirrors in every bathroom?
Looking at my own face makes me uncomfortable, so I typically don’t look imto mirrors straight-on.
That’s not your face.
Well whoever it is, they better pitch in for bills.
Might benefit from some therapy pal
I’m sure everybody could.
Weird thing to find out that not everyone feels, I guess.
The distance between how we perceive ourselves and how the world perceives us is the very foundation that cringe makes its home atop.
Maybe because you hear your voice every time you speak but rarely in recordings so the difference is more jarring. Most people don’t spend all day looking at a mirror but probably see photos of themselves more often than they hear recordings.
I’d assume it’s because you see yourself whenever you look in a mirror, and that image matches what a picture of you looks like. However when you talk, what you hear doesn’t match what other people hear, so hearing a recording of the ‘external’ sound of your voice sounds more foreign, and that can lead to discomfort.
I suspect it’s because we see accurate representations of ourselves in every mirror. With voice though what we heat normally is distorted by the resonence ofnour jawbone, so hearing the version everyone else does when it’s played back from a recording is alien and weird.
Nobody ever sees us mirrored though
Might make for an interesting experiment to take picture of someone in a mirror and through the mirror (pinhole or two-way mirror) and then ask people which of the two is real and which is the doctored one. Neither are edited of course but one would look wrong for anyone who met the person in the photos.
I suspect this is basically it, however I’ve often thought similar could be said of one’s appearance; as it’s distorted by different lighting, whether your clothing’s gotten wrinkled up a certain way, the wind’s messed up your hair, or you accidentally smudged makeup or some dirt on you somewhere. Although that all is also typically easier to adjust (give or take the lighting and wind) than your voice, so that undoubtedly plays into it.
I’d guess lack of familiarity. Your voice sounds different than what you hear in your head so a recording can seem very strange, whereas seeing a picture or reflection is much more frequent for many people.
Yeah, growing up before digital photography was common, loads of people hated how they looked in photographs. When you only saw a couple of photos of yourself in a year, it was really easy to be horrified and ask “is that really what I look like”. Now you can take ten selfies in a row and you know that how you look varies massively depending on the angle or lighting. And anyone who has to regularly work with their own recorded voice generally gets over the cringe pretty quickly.
People see themselves in the mirror pretty often, so they have a general idea of how they appear to other people. But they don’t hear their own voice regularly unless they record themselves and listen to it, so it’s more of a surprise when they do hear their own voice.
I think you have this flipped, though. It’s more like we hear ourselves all the time, but we don’t sound at all to ourselves the way we actually sound. We don’t have a sort of internal picture of ourselves to create dissonance with our reflection or photographs in the same way we do with our voices. It’s that dissonance that makes us distrust or dislike hearing ourselves as we actually sound because that isn’t the voice we identify with internally.
I think this is changing and would change more in thw future. I’m not a fan of voice messages, but my wife and her sisters never “chat” they just send audio messages on whatsapp all the time and, at least my wife, listen to the messages she send multiple times. I don’t think she’s the only one who does that.
Seeing myself on video gives me the same feeling as hearing my voice.
On a side note, imagine being the first person to ever hear a recording o ftheir own voice. Would they have known that how we hear ourselves isn’t what others hear, or would they chalk it up to a flaw in the nascent technology?
That’s a very interesting question. I wonder if there were any articles written about the subject at the time.
Your voice resonates through your bones and sounds very different to you personally. So when you hear a recording it is a different voice than you’re used to hearing.
A photo is a photo, you know what you look like. Some people just don’t like having photos taken. The way some people don’t really look in the mirror that much.
Maybe in part because when you talk, you’re constantly making subconscious live adjustments to your voice based on feedback from hearing it through your head. So when you hear it recorded and it doesn’t sound like what you’re expecting, that auto-correcting part of your subconscious wants to jump in and adjust it.
Because we had been hearing our offseted pitch our whole lives and now we know it’s worst than what we thought
We hear ourselves all the time, but we don’t sound at all to ourselves the way we actually sound. We don’t have a sort of internal picture of ourselves to create dissonance with our reflection or photographs in the same way we do with our voices. It’s that dissonance that makes us distrust or dislike hearing ourselves as we actually sound because that isn’t the voice we identify with internally.
I have central auditory processing disorder, capd. Seeing a visual is instantaneous, clear, easy. People speaking is torturous, brain can’t process, requires lot of work, confusion, translating. For me, visuals are external, but even external sounds become internal, physical. Activation of the limbic system, anxiety, fear, can lead to hearing voices. Prefrontal cortex, I think, is where brain stops internalizing sound as stress, fear. Why some people with adhd who hear voices take a small, mild dose of Ritalin at night. Ritalin means less limbic, less fear.
Not an answer to your question, but I think different areas of the brain process sound, visuals. Different mechanisms. I’d be interested to know if someone could shed light on this.
I’ve got a very mild visual processing disorder. Sometimes I’ll look at a picture of something and just be like “wtf is that” for a solid minute or two before I see the obvious object/scene that it is.
The way your voice sounds inside your head is impacted by the way that your voice vibrates and reverberates inside your skull, producing a deeper and more resonant sound. Everyone tends to think recordings of their voice sound tinny because it is not in the same deep register they are used to.
Similarly, people tend to only be used to seeing their likeness in the mirror, meaning that other images of them which are not mirrored can seem as unfamiliar as a whole other person.
