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US transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg on Monday said human drivers must pay attention at all times after videos emerged of people wearing what appeared to be Apple’s recently released Vision Pro headset while driving Teslas.
Buttigieg responded on Twitter/X to a video that had more than 24m views of a Tesla driver who appeared to be gesturing with his hands to manipulate a virtual reality field.
Despite their names, Tesla’s assisted driving features – Autopilot, Enhanced Autopilot and Full Self-Driving – do not mean the vehicles are fully autonomous, Buttigieg said Monday on social media.
“Reminder – ALL advanced driver assistance systems available today require the human driver to be in control and fully engaged in the driving task at all times,” Buttigieg said.
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I really don’t think these are staged. All its doing is making Vision Pro users look like assholes
Maybe that’s the point.
The thing doesn’t work when you’re moving and the cameras detect that your surroundings are moving. It is 100% staged.
Source? I heard that it’s usable on an airplane
The movements in the video definitely look exaggerated especially the wavy hands at the end
I don’t deny that it’s probably staged. Imo it’s more likely just rage bait
Is the US government also alarmed by all the text and driver or the rising pedestrian deaths?
Naw, it’s not topical
Dumbasses, the videos are fake viral marketing.
Marketing for what? Being incredibly stupid?
Marketing for the Apple VR, which is working, because now we have hundreds of news articles, social media posts and now the goverment talking about it.
So you’re saying Apple paid these people?
The complete disregard for road safety and personal well-being (not to mention the well-being of others) never ceases to amaze me.
I see several videos every day on social media of people taking videos while driving.
Saw another guy doing a (very unimportant) delivery with a trailer across state in a clapped-out old van on the 1 day of the year there was ice on the road, and predictably crashed badly.
Stupidity. Stupidity never changes.
“You can’t fix stupid” - Ron White
This is one of the things about assisted driving tech that’s always confused me. It seems unlikely that we will have fully self-driving cars soon, but the illusion of being able to be absent while driving seems really dangerous. It doesn’t seem like an improvement to me to remove the human element from most of the driving tasks while also requiring that human to spring into action seemingly at random.
Like don’t get me wrong, people do dumb shit on the road with or without assistance, but having a system that requires human involvement at a zero-to-hero level seems like a bad system.
Then again, based on this actual content, maybe people just shouldn’t be allowed to own vehicles full stop.
It seems unlikely that we will have fully self-driving cars soon
Maybe not from Tesla, but Mercedes already sells 2 cars which have limited Level 3 self driving functionality. Up to 50 mph you are legally allowed to divert your attention from the road and do something else, you just need to be ready to take back control within 10 seconds of the car telling you to do so. Mercedes is so confident in that system that they are taking legal liability for any crashes caused while the car is in self driving mode. And Mercedes is already planning to get the car certified for speeds up to 75mph soon, so it will be usable at regular highway speeds
I find it baffling that people are so eager to put their faith in this shit 😂
Well, so far these cars have driven a lot of miles without crashes. They don’t need to be perfect, they just need to be better than a human driver, which is not a very high bar to set
I’d sooner place it there than with humans.
Have you been in the road?? Human drivers are fucking scary.
You are of course correct but the problem is that Tesla are irresponsible, shocking I know.
All the other car companies are holding back their self-driving tech until it actually 100% works, but Tesla are like, nah we’re going to use our customers as bata testers. So what if they die they’ve already bought the car.
Obviously that guy is dumb enough to do this, he bought a cyber truck…
This guy definitely has a crypto wallet and a monkey jpeg
I doubt he has a crypto wallet of his own. Probably an account on coinbase though.
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Let Darwin take them.
And the innocent others that they may kill in the process?
No motorist is innocent 🙂
Yeah it’s a shame all those food delivery trucks delivered most of the food you probably ever consumed
I have literally never gotten anything delivered.
I’m sure that’s true 🙄
But anyway, I was talking about all of the food that is delivered to grocery stores, restaurants, and anywhere else in society that wasn’t personally farmed or hunted by yourself. Almost every retail food seller of any kind has their stock delivered by trucks for the last mile at least.
Not to mention all of the various other tangible goods that are purchased for a typical modern life. Those are mostly delivered by trucks to the stores too.
The term “motorist” generally refers specifically to people who travel by car. Truckers are a different category.
That said! Society does not need to be structured in a way where everything is delivered by trucks and it’s actually extremely bad!
Sure keep moving those goalposts, that’ll do it
I love your overall disdain for humanity, but your cherry-picking is disgusting. 😘
Ah yes, so the little baby in the car with no other choice isn’t innocent. You must subscribe to the IDF idea of how to draw the line….
I don’t know what that means. Are you saying all drivers and passengers on the road deserve to die?
🤭
I don’t know what that’s supposed to mean.
God damn cringe overload is what it is…
It means queermunist is a rank piece of human garbage, basically.
They could also kill pedestrians
Point.
Actually they’re more likely to do that huh?
Damn. Just another reason to ban driving.
I meant pedestrian are innocent in this case and we let Darwin deal with them innocent pedestrians might die.
Yeah, and I meant we should ban driving. Motorists are the devil.
yeah but most people unfortunately just love to drive
I fucking love people
on today’s episode of “humans testing the limits of natural selection”
If this prompts the US government, why is the rising pedestrian deaths not promoting action?
Well, the actual causes of pedestrian deaths (big dumb vehicles, infrastructure that more or less necessitates personal vehicle ownership) are the same things that the auto industry lobbies hard for.
See General Motors and jaywalking
I mean, I’d use partial self driving on I5 to eat my taco bell, but I’m still paying attention to what’s in front of me!
I’m still paying attention to what’s in front of me
Yeah, you’re paying attention to the fast food you’re too impatient to wait to eat safely. You’re not properly paying attention to the road or all of the other people whose lives are now in danger because you’re shoving a chalupa down your pie hole instead of safely operating the two ton missile you’re supposed to be guiding down the highway. Your lane assist isn’t magic, and when you inevitably fuck this up, I hope it’s a single-vehicle accident and you spare other drivers the misfortune.
Jeez, It was a rental I had for a month about 2 years ago.
And for your information, it was a single chicken taco. There were no cars around. I’m not talking LA I5, this is in the middle of nowhere and I had to make an emergency drive up Eureka from Sacramento.
Aren’t these new Apple things AR devices you can see through, though? You could have a HUD that assists with driving.
Yeah and what would you do if the device malfunctions or runs put of battery? You’d literally be blind.
You take it off… It’s not bolted to your head. What do people who wear glasses do if they fog up while driving?
Yeah, sure. You just “take it off” while driving a +2000kg metal block that’s circulating at 40 to 160km/h. It’s totally fine to lose control over your friggin eyes while operating a machine like that.
I’m sorry but you’re either a troll or just very dumb.
They’re not true AR devices, they’re VR headsets masquerading as AR, you’re still just watching a video of the world around you. As good as the Vision Pro’s passthrough video, it’s still passthrough video and doesn’t have the same resolution as our eyes would have, plus it probably blocks out at least some of your peripheral vision. I do think having a HUD while driving would be nice, but it would need to be able to restrict any sort of extraneous content out (like youtube videos or whatever) and ONLY show information needed for driving (maybe have music/audio controls at most).
the only “HUD” I want while driving is one that dynamically dims LED headlights while leaving the rest of my view unaltered.
Speedo and tach projected in the bottom edge of the windscreen is really nice tho.
The issue is the government’s biggest concern isn’t safety, it’s being able to legislate those being unsafe. Which can actually be conflicting, because even if a VR headset showing directions on the road itself is less distracting than looking at a separate phone/GPS- a cop doesn’t know if you’re doing that, or if you have YouTube in the corner of your eye.
Oh, you “could.” But I’ll bet you these individuals aren’t. These morons are looking at videos or scrolling the web or some other stupid attention diverting shit.
I’m not sure there even exists any kind of hypothetical “AR driving assistance” app for the Apple Vision. And there probably never will, for the obvious massive liability reasons.
Between this and the crApple VR thingy on the NYC subway, this makes me wonder for the fate of humanity.
We embrance technology in stupid ways. It’s a thing we always do, It’s pretty hilarious aside from the death part.
When cars were invented, there were no traffic laws, people drove drunk and got in tumbling car wrecks, ran over people constantly. They were much faster than foot, carriage, etc.
When cell phones became affordable, people talked-and-drove so much and wrecks went up.
When texting became popular, people texted and drove and wrecks went up even more.
When smartphones became approachable to the masses, people drive around scrolling web sites rather than driving.
When social video media became popular and usable on mobile broadband, people drive around watching videos rather than driving.
Now VR headset, and on and on.
I see a couple takeaways here:
- We really hate driving, like a lot, at the expense of our own safety. Why doesn’t America especially embrace public transport. We have over a century of documented data indicating how much we all apparently hate driving so much we’ll try to die instead of driving.
- We humans are really stupid about risk assessment, but eventually society corrects the stupidity. Seems to be something we just keep doing ad infinitum and we’re just cool losing a few people along the way until we correct. It’s just odd.
