• Dr_Gabriel_Aby [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    I think it’s so funny people are having long debates in this comment section and it’s essentially just saying a wealthy guy may or may not be able to fly to the EU because he did something.

    Literally nothing has happened and I gotta read 87 paragraphs about whether I should be a free speech absolutist or not,

    • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.ee
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      Find me a single American journalist that interviewed Hitler after he invaded Poland. I’ll wait.

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          Someone post that article about how comparing communism to nazism is antisemitism. It’s really good.

          EDIT: I know Russia isn’t communist but you’d be easily mistaken with how liberals talk about them.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        Just so we’re clear here, what you’re suggesting that engaging in wars of aggression automatically equates the country with the nazi Germany?

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        Not just interviewing Hitler, but only asking the questions Hitler wanted, and then urging the world to listen because everybody needs to hear his side

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        Karl H. von Wiegand, an American journalist, met Hitler first in 1921. Poland was invaded in 1 September, 1939 by the Third Reich. A month after Germany invaded France in World War II, on June 11, 1940, he secured another interview with Hitler.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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          Not only that, but US companies such as Ford and IBM continued to do business with Germany well into the war. And of course, we shouldn’t forget that nazis were directly inspired by US race laws, but initially even they found them to be too extreme.

          Moyers: Bilbo said, “One drop of Negro blood placed in the veins of the purest Caucasian destroys the inventive genius of his mind and palsies his creative faculty.” Is it true that the Nazis thought the one-drop rule too extreme?

          Whitman: They did indeed. They never proposed anything nearly as extreme as the one-drop rule. In fact the standard, the most far-reaching Nazi definitions of who counted as a Jew, matched the least far-reaching ones to be found in the American states. Virtually all American definitions of who counted as a black were far more draconian than anything found in any Nazi proposal. At the same time, the Nazi literature expressed real discomfort about the so-called one-drop rule, which, I have to say, was not found in every American state, as there were a variety of approaches in the US. But it was understandably notorious. The Nazis, difficult as it is to imagine, described the one-drop rule as inhuman, as “involving human hardness that’s going much, much too far, you couldn’t do that kind of thing,” they said. And their own definitions for who counted as a Jew, especially those that were ultimately attached to the Nuremberg Laws, were more restricted than anything to be found in American states at the time.

          https://billmoyers.com/story/hitler-america-nazi-race-law/

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Carlson’s work in Russia could see the former Fox News host in hot water with the EU, Guy Verhofstadt, a former Belgian Prime Minister and current member of the European Parliament, told Newsweek.

    Explaining his motive for the interview, Carlson said in a video statement on Tuesday: “Most Americans have no idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or what his goals are now.”

    If deemed sufficient, the EAS can then present the case to the European Council—the body made up of EU national leaders—which takes the final decision on whether to impose sanctions.

    One European diplomatic official, who did not wish to be named as they were not authorized to speak publicly, told Newsweek that any future travel restrictions would likely require proof that he is linked to Moscow’s aggression, something that “is absent or hard to prove.”

    The content of Carlson’s interview with Putin is not yet clear but, given the pundit’s long-time defense of aspects of Russian policy, critics expect it to be sympathetic to Moscow.

    “First of all, it should be remembered that Putin is not just a president of an aggressor country, but he is wanted by the International Criminal Court and accused of genocide and war crimes,” MEP Urmas Paet, who previously served as Estonia’s foreign minister, told Newsweek.


    The original article contains 765 words, the summary contains 213 words. Saved 72%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    My favorite thing about the interview is when he literally told Putin to “shut the fuck up and get back to the script” when he started talking about the Nazis being bad. Like shit man, if you didn’t have the soft power you had I don’t think you’d be leaving Russia after that one.

    It was wild in general seeing Putin as not being the most wicked man in the room, which isn’t hard when the other person is probably one of the most notorious neo-nazi propagandists in America who literally quit their golden job because they asked him to hide the racism a bit better.

  • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    like i don’t give a shit about tuck but in what reality is simply talking to the “enemy” some kind of punishable offense. y’all supposed to be all about free press, are they not free to speak to bad people?

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      When Russia has repeatedly denied requests from other journalists in the past, I don’t think that you can really associate Carlson with being “free press”. This is a business deal, not journalism. How should we treat people who engage in business deals with sanctioned individuals?

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tucker-carlson-vladimir-putin-interview-b2492192.html

      “Does Tucker really think we journalists haven’t been trying to interview President Putin every day since his full-scale invasion of Ukraine? It’s absurd – we’ll continue to ask for an interview, just as we have for years now,” said CNN’s Christiane Amanpour.

      The BBC’s Russia editor, Steve Rosenberg, wrote on X: “Interesting to hear @TuckerCarlson claim that ‘no western journalist has bothered to interview’ Putin since the invasion of Ukraine. We’ve lodged several requests with the Kremlin in the last 18 months. Always a ‘no’ for us.”

      Yevgenia Albats, a Russian journalist and author of a book about the KGB, described Mr Carlson’s claim as “unbelievable”.

      “I am like hundreds of Russian journalists who have had to go into exile to keep reporting about the Kremlin’s war against Ukraine. The alternative was to go to jail. And now this SoB is teaching us about good journalism, shooting from the $1,000 Ritz suite in Moscow,” she wrote on X.

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        “Press” has always been a business. This isn’t the dunk you think it is. They have always dealt with and interviewed sanctioned individuals. Some even interview prisoners!

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        Your three sources are all undeniable propaganda. If you don’t think Tucker Carlson is a serious journalist, that’s perfectly understandable, but surely even the bottom of the barrel is more serious than the literal agents of the governments you’re at war with? If I was Putin, I’d also turn down the literal BBC. Libs are so up their own ego they can’t imagine someone not wanting to be filtered through their state’s propaganda apparatus.

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      Actually I kind of think the whole “get all precious about free speech” thing is kind of played out and mostly right wing bullshit anyhow

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      First: you are a hexbear so you speak in bad faith, since your instance licks Putins boots. Second: It is an offense because he spreads propaganda of a genocidal maniac.

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    It’s amazing what lengths Carlson goes to in order to stay relevant. Sad, really.

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      In authoritarian bad country, professional bowtie journalists spread racist hatred to cause dissent among the impoverished for the sake of the elite ruling class, but they are forbidden from speaking to foreign enemies

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    I doubt anything will come of this, it’s just an interview, probably just some big talk from people in EU parliament, I guess Russia did the exact same thing when they sanctioned Sean Penn and Ben Stiller, but I would be surprised if the EU stoops to that level, it’s frankly petty to target private citizens doing media stuff regardless of what it is or how much you disagree with it.

    https://thehill.com/policy/international/3629942-russia-sanctions-25-more-americans-including-us-officials-and-actors/

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      but I would be surprised if the EU stoops to that level, it’s frankly petty to target private citizens doing media stuff regardless of what it is or how much you disagree with it.

      “Am I a joke to you?”

      • Jullian Assange
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    8 months ago

    Tucker Carlson is a fascist prick but this is ridiculous. He interviewed a guy and made it public. He did basic journalism. It might not be good journalism and it might be biased against the official party line but it is not like he has shot up an Ukrainian orphanage or something.