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    Soooo… does anyone have a torrent of a complete and unabridged copy of that library?

    Would be interested in lending my assistance in seeding.

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    I don’t see the problem. You bought the product, you’re allowed to download it in perpetuity, even if it’s from a torrent site.

    Hell, the law is on my side. Depending on where you live, there are laws which allow you to make copies of media you own for personal use.

    You can use a VCR to record broadcast TV, I don’t see why you wouldn’t be able to make a copy of stuff that’s available on streaming sites, etc. Especially if you bought it.

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      While it’s legal to make a copy for personal use only, it’s illegal to circumvent any form of DRM for that.

      You are allowed to own a copy of protected media, but you aren’t allowed to make a copy.

    • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
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      Fair use does allow you to back up your stuff. That’s why you can rip CDs in the US. Nbd. They tried to make it stop, but it didn’t. And I buy CDs specifically to rip the lossless audio off of them. You can also rip DVDs legally.

      But Blu-Ray gets a little muddy. It’s not the content that’s the problem, but the DRM. You’re allowed to back up the content, but it’s technically illegal to defeat the DRM in order to access said content.

      Hasn’t stopped me. I don’t make my MKVs available on the Internet. I acquire copies of my movies legitimately. What I do with the discs when I get home is honestly nobody’s business.

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    Feel bad for Abe. I had a same conversation with Garmin; it turns out when you buy lifetime maps it means for the duration we decide to support the product, which can have the lifetime of a mayfly and there is nothing they will do, and nothing you can do except not buy another Garmin product.

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      I did a quick google, you can torrent updates for free for at least some garmin products. Given you paid for lifetime map updates, I’d argue it’s not even illegal.

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          I still have and use all my old Craftsman tools from the 90s. One of my 1/4 ratchets broke and since it’s a made in the USA tool, I figured I would look for parts online and try to repair it. Unfortunately the parts cost more than the wrench on ebay, so I decided to take it to Lowes (who now distributes Craftsman tools) to see if they would honor the lifetime warranty. They had no qualms about honoring the warranty and replaced it with the current model, knowing full well the tool was 30 years old. The new ratchet is more ergonomic, has a finer tooth count and not nearly as sloppy as the old one. So shout out to Stanley and Lowes for doing the right thing.

          • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
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            Craftsman and Kobalt hand tools are honestly pretty great for like 99% of homeowner-handymen. My dad uses Snap-On because he’s a farmer and he’s hard on his tools. But me? Most I’m doing is tightening something in the house or wrenching on my car. I’ve never in my life had an issue with Craftsman tools.

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              Someone gave me a Dewalt tool set when I did a favor for them. Both Dewalt and Craftsman are owned by Stanley and the Dewalt tools are identical to the new Craftsman.

              Also I had 1 small piece break in that Dewalt set and Dewalt replaced it with a whole new set of tools, so now I have 2.

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                Yeah I had a battery shit out on me near the end of the 3 year warranty, they sent me a new, larger AH battery, no questions asked.

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    Serious question. Has there ever been a lawsuit, like individual or tort, that has gone after companies for this behavior? If so, what countries?

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    I literally save a copy of digital content I “buy”, cause “buying” obviously means “you can have the product for a bit, if we feel like it”

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      TBH I have a subscription to multiple streaming sites, but I usually torrent what I want to watch anyway.

      I paid to watch it, I’m simply choosing to watch it in the way that’s most convenient to me. Sometimes Netflix forgets to supply the video in the quality I paid for, so I’m simply helping them fulfill their contract.

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        But on page 69, section 420 of Netflix’s EULA, it says that you may only watch videos in the quality you paid for if your device is capable of supporting their shitty hardware DRM implementation, where if you modify any part of the system, it becomes invalidated.

        Therefore, you, the consumer, are in the wrong for not reading through and understanding the entirety of the license agreement before paying extra for a service that didn’t make that limitation obvious before receiving payment. Nothing legally-dubious going on here.

        DRM should be illegal.

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      you can also steal physical media from Walmart, copy it all to a hard drive, melt down and cast the plastic into dildos and buttplugs for your own enjoyment.

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      Fucking amen. Especially in the music scene, I’ve read about sooo many people going back to CD’s because they got fed up with their music streaming service of choice and I’m just over here feeling like that guy at the Diablo Immortal announcement… Do you guys not have phones?

      Like, these things have hundreds of gigs of storage, more than any iPod ever did, and yet almost everyone has completely forgotten about having an mp3 collection? I have about 2500 songs saved on my phone with the same or better bitrate than you’d get on Spotify premium and it’s like… 25gb? I could easily quadruple my collection and still not be hurting for storage space.

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    Remember kids, piracy is not only moral, but a moral obligation in this capitalist hellscape! (and not theft by definition, and should not be illegal) Torrents are one of the few effective weapons against corporations

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      Without piracy, many things would be lost. I’m not going to pretend piracy is purely altruistic, but it certainly has benefits for society.

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    A clarification that really only makes this worse: Crunchyroll did not acquire Funimation. Funimation acquired Crunchyroll, and decided to use the Crunchyroll name instead. They have had every opportunity since the merger to support people’s purchases, but have chosen not to.

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      So they’re using Crunchyroll as the name of their streaming service, but will continue to use Funimation for physical media? I can’t imagine they’re just throwing the entire Funimation brand in the trash.

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      Tired of honoring your contracts? Simply purchase a different company and hide behind their name.

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        Or in the case of Comcast or Facebook, just rebrand without having to buy another company.

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          Or if you’re Google, create another company under a different name, split yourself up, then buy everything under that new umbrella (Alphabet). That’ll keep the antitrust enforcers at bay…

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      This is incorrect. It was a merger. Sony owns both Crunchyroll and Funimation. That being said, the servers didn’t magically disappear. Media could 1000% have been consolidated.

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        I had no idea Sony owned both now.

        This is obviously the outcome given its Sony.

        They probably bought all the lube they’d need to fuck everyone over before the merger was proposed at a board meeting the person with the idea was so excited for it.

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        Sony owns both now, but Crunchyroll was purchased from AT&T in 2021. Sony purchased Funimation in 2017. So while it is perhaps not 100% accurate to say that Funimation itself did the purchasing of Crunchyroll, the company that owned Funimation did.

        Edit: it is also worth mentioning that after the acquisition there was an immediate decrease in new content added to Funimation, and within a couple seasons there was virtually none, as customers were being pushed to the Crunchyroll app. Many, but not all, Funimation shows were also copied to Crunchyroll, but none the other way.

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      They couldn’t even transfer over everyone’s watch history like they promised. They can’t even manage to apply multiple audio tracks and subtitles to the same videos, so each dub is displayed like it’s own season and when youre done a series it just starts playing episode 1 in German right away. Their newly added page is full of old titles that just had a Hindi dub uploaded.

      They’d have an easier time getting to mars than letting people transfer their purchased videos over.

      But crunchyroll paid video game YouTubers to promote it a decade ago, so it was the brand that won out. Never mind that all these problems did not occur on the funimation website. Never let anyone ever tell you that advertising isn’t important, it’s more ten times more valuable than good coding or engineering.

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        Just a couple of weeks ago I used a free trial on Crunchyroll and none of that is true, at least for the 3 titles I watched (My Hero Academia, Jujutsu Kaizen, and Demon Slayer). The audio tracks were selectable in the video player, as were the subtitles.

        Also, the subtitles were absolutely top notch, with translations of Japanese text appearing just next to the original, at the same angle and with the same colours, and without obscuring the original text.

        I haven’t heard about any shoddy business before seeing this post, but that could be because I haven’t looked for it.

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          Its only recently started to be fixed. Doesnt apply to all titles and all apps. So your android app is fine but your smart tv app is still fucked.

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        They can’t even manage to apply multiple audio tracks and subtitles

        This is the worst thing.

        It’s not even smart enough to finish the episode and not switch over to some other translation, so watching Simulcast is super painful.

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          Yeah and then the episode 1 dub sits there in your recently watch, blocking new episodes from appearing when they come out

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      So they bought another company and then said “we changed our name so we’re not obligated to fulfill any of our previous obligations now!”? How dafuq is that legal?

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    This is not about digital vs physical. CD’s, DVD’s and BluRay’s are also a digital medium at the end of the day.

    It was just a lie, there were no digital copies for purchase, they were only selling “lifetime” (as long as the service exists) rights to rent from them.

    Buy physical or digital copies, whatever. Just be sure you are actually buying a copy.

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      Exactly. Optical discs still have data that can be ripped (In some countries it’s explicitly legal to keep a back up). You have something tangible you can keep.

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        Physical copies and offline installers are the only way you can ever have your own archive of something these days.

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      They weren’t selling digital copies. You could only get these by buying a physical copy. They came with a code allowing you to also stream the digital version.

      They did lie about the “forever” though.

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    digital copies

    digital conditional access licenses

    Nobody but Funimation ever owned these files. Let’s start calling a spade a spade and maybe people will start realizing how dumb of a purchase they are.

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    Sounds like you have every moral reason to sail the seven seas to rescue your stolen content license.