Something I’ve experienced traveling around the state is that there is a palpable fear of even letting your friends know you are a Democrat, or even in line with what Democratic politicians are doing. There’s vandalism that takes place here, and people are scared of that. Having your yard sign stolen or your flag taken down is one thing, but having your car keyed or trash left in your yard, that’s another. I know people who have been harassed after they are outed as a Democrat, and then people give them trouble. People hear those stories. They’re not fake. They’re not made up. I’ve seen and heard some really ugly language.

I’m not a Dem (I’m a Leftists), but this pretty much sums it up. The Right plays dirty. They aren’t bound by any sense of decency. I’d say the only way we can beat them is to respond with our own violence (which I, personally, detest). I don’t see us beating them because they don’t believe in rules of engagement. Sorry to be so demoralizing in this post.

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    This is not as solid advice as you think. History has shown the only time the status quo is rewritten is when the common people have banded together to hold their rulers accountable. Civility is only saved from villains under the watchful eye of a Nimean Lion. To throw away your anger is to be consumed by apathy.

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      I never said to “throw away your anger” I just mean that the right wants everyone else to sink to their level. There is a huge difference between defending yourself versus allowing someone to mold you into everything you claim to be against.

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        We must do more than just defend ourselves. The rot is too deep. We can’t defend against every Republican action perfectly; we must fight back to restore the balance, or more.

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          You’re just going to play into their game because violence and cheating is THEIR GAME. They’ve been doing it for so long that they’re pretty much always going to win when we go that route. There has to be a better solution somewhere between “doing nothing” and “mass violence and anarchy in the streets”

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            Maybe, why don’t you present one with supporting evidence of its efficacy?

            Because from where I’m sitting the answer is definitely violence, it has always been violence, and it will always be violence. The only choice is whether that is structural violence being monopolized by the state, vigilantism by factional groups, or mass uprising by the proletariat.

            No matter how you slice the pie, violence is a part of 100% of the social evolution of society. You will not be able to provide a single example to the contrary because it does not exist.

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              Because from where I’m sitting the answer is definitely violence, it has always been violence, and it will always be violence. The only choice is whether that is structural violence being monopolized by the state, vigilantism by factional groups, or mass uprising by the proletariat.

              Congratulations, you sound just like the MAGA idiots in the January 6th insurrection

              🥳

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                Wow, an ad hominem argument…what a surprise. While you may not like the ethical implications of what I said (I don’t either for the record), you would he hard pressed to argue against it.

                So, again, I ask you to tell me how you think the system has or will change without violence being a main deterministic factor?