Something I’ve experienced traveling around the state is that there is a palpable fear of even letting your friends know you are a Democrat, or even in line with what Democratic politicians are doing. There’s vandalism that takes place here, and people are scared of that. Having your yard sign stolen or your flag taken down is one thing, but having your car keyed or trash left in your yard, that’s another. I know people who have been harassed after they are outed as a Democrat, and then people give them trouble. People hear those stories. They’re not fake. They’re not made up. I’ve seen and heard some really ugly language.

I’m not a Dem (I’m a Leftists), but this pretty much sums it up. The Right plays dirty. They aren’t bound by any sense of decency. I’d say the only way we can beat them is to respond with our own violence (which I, personally, detest). I don’t see us beating them because they don’t believe in rules of engagement. Sorry to be so demoralizing in this post.

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    That’s not really that true.

    Living in Portland, far right mobs used to come in and stir shit (while their police buddies stood aside and smirked) until the city collectively drove them out. It was ugly but we’ve been proud boy free for the last 2-3 years.

    Sometimes violence is the answer

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      I remember reading in a Portland newspaper that the one time antifa didn’t organize a counter-protest, the Proud Boys (many of whom had driven in from out-of-state) started driving around the neighborhoods terrorizing random folks on the street who looked like they might be LGBTQ+. That was a “never again” day for sure.

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        Yep, the whole Portland situation was a real eye-opener.

        Violent prison chain gangers, wife-beaters and bar brawlers, in short, thugs, were bussed into the city nearly every week with the worst intent. Their private chats (leaked via Unicorn Riot) exposed how they planned press-friendly rallies by day and violence by night.

        Meanwhile, Fox News and Facebook were radicalizing your rural grandparents over “scary Antifa buses coming into rural neighborhoods to beat people, torch buildings.”

        The whole twisted and crooked right wing machine on display right there.