• Catradora-Stalinism☭@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    But the rural coal miner stranded in a small town with no jobs, no outside money coming in, they rely on coal jobs and if they lose them, they starve.

    you act like we somehow don’t factor them in. Best options are reparations and stable government income until they find a job, or directly train them for working in renewables.

    I guarantee that washing solar panels is more healthy than working in a coal mine

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      1 year ago

      Who is shipping them solar panels? Haven’t seen the left push many bills to send renewable energy to rural towns. They sure as shit can’t afford to buy them so again what is the plan here? Ideals are so lovely in everyone’s mind but they’re just lip service. You can write out a plan, getting it done is the hard part. The people you’re unwilling to compromise with are standing in your way, yet everyone here bawks at the idea of getting shit done at half-steps and would rather get blocked at every leap. Radical change cannot exist with the presence of the right which makes compromise essential until that changes.

      Everyone on the left knows coal plants are bad, coal mining is bad, yet the only bills being pushed are to ban and remove them NOT supplement the jobs and workers they alienate which is why it’s taking so long to remove them entirely. The right won’t let go of the objectively wrong way to do things so long as there are people voters they can capitalize on whose lives depend on doing the wrong thing.

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        Sis, China has some of the largest mines that contribute to solar panel production in the world! Taiwan even trades with them in order to get the materials for such things. They make it themselves! Also how would a global collective addressing everyone’s needs not help anyone?

        lip service? Since when is their environmental program lip service, they have the largest de-desertification campaign in the world! They are the largest user of renewable energy in the world! One of the forefronts of Nuclear energy and the discovery of Fusion! Aren’t socialist countries notorious for writing out big economic plans and completing them? You don’t go from poor agrarian backwater to spacefaring superpower in 20 years while having fought off the largest and most devastating war in history on lip service.

        Also what is this “compromise with the right” bullshit? That never goes well, ever. They will never allow you to enact meaningful change, and are actively trying to undermine you in order to kill you anyway. You really think we want to work within their bourgeoisie democracy, one that favors the will of the right above all else? I assure you, we aren’t voting our way to socialism. To truly move forward you need only eliminate the right and install a socialist state through Revolution. The right isn’t necessary since at all, as they are only a force of regression.

        We do not write the bills, there are no socialists in the offices of the US government. What delusions do you have that somehow a communist exists in the US government?

        The reason the US is taking too long to replace coal is because they aren’t trying to replace coal. Every arm of the government actively deters and undermines all efforts at renewable energy. An actual socialist 5 year plan would implement these changes quickly and as effectively as possible. China’s efforts even include retraining coal workers to operate in the renewable energy sector.

        How can every single sentence you have be totally and completely wrong?