Point #1:
The single biggest argument that moon landing believers bring out against moon landing deniers is that it would be too much of a secret to keep hidden for all these years.
To fake a moon landing, you’d need 400,000 conspirators
My reply to that is that we already have historical proof that keeping a large scale secret is possible. We did this already with the Manhattan Project. The Manhattan Project employed nearly 130,000 people at its peak. That was kept secret.
Someone is going to point out that 400,000 is more than 130,000 and the length of time is longer. The length of time is longer because we dropped the bombs on Japan and let the secrets out. Also, anytime you do something you gain experience. The government gained experience with the secrecy regarding the Manhattan Project and then expanded upon it with the moon landing.
Point #2:
There has never been a single spot on the Earth that we have explored and then walked away from to never return. North Pole, South Pole, Marianas Trench…when we discover something we return. We landed on the Moon 55 years ago, supposedly did a few more landings until 1972, and then never went back. That’s after 52 years of technological improvements. It’s absurd! Imagine if someone told you that Europeans never went back to the New World after Columbus.
We should have the Moon setup like it was in the Sam Rockwell movie: Moon by now.
Conclusion:
I believe the moon landing was faked.
I like the Kubrick conspiracy
This is posted in Unpopular Opinion, not Unpopular Facts. My belief is just an opinion and I have no proof, therefore it is not a fact.
point #1
No, it wasn’t. We didn’t keep the secret. USSR successfully stole secrets. They also knew we were up to an atomic bomb. I don’t know why you think they didn’t.
Point #2
That would be ridiculous because there was good free unclaimed land. While it’s never explicitly said, free unclaimed land requires oxygen, food, and water. Otherwise it’s not land you can live on, it’s land you can work on while someone keeps you alive.
Why? In the arctic we can measure the weather of the poles, study long term isolation of humans. We don’t need to provide water or air, transportation is cheap compared to the moon. The marianas trench allows us to study formation of the earth, genetics of crazy offshoots of earth biology. Evacuation procedure is UP, taking hours. Moon trip is 6 days round trip, can’t be cancelled or evacuated. Both are drops in the bucket in price vs the moon.
With the moon you can… well what? A telescope could be awesome but if you’re going that far you could also just drop one off at a Lagrange point of the earth. Mining sounds great until you realize that bringing the resources home require either an entire manufacturing hub on the moon to launch resources at earth. You won’t see returns for decades, any fuck up could ruin it all. Telescopes are unmanned, so drop it somewhere and it lasts as long as it lasts.
The USSR acknowledged that we made it, there’s no reason for them to lie.
We plopped retroreflectors on the moon, so you can shoot lasers at them and bounce them back.
multiple groups were able to track the missions via radio transmissions, which isn’t someone saying “oh look they said they’re in space so they must be” It’s mutiple locations saying. “I’m recieving this signal from this direction at this time. Judging from all this data, they’re halfway to the moon.”
Why would we lie about it? If it’s about stealing the money that went into it we already have 60% of the pentagon budget unaccounted for. If it’s about deceiving the soviets how could we possibly trick them? If it’s about raising nationalism why not pull an FDR and minimize poverty?
just… no. If you want to push this then you need some hard evidence. You’re the one making the extraordinary claim.
As an aside, do you also think the James Webb telescope fake? That is as nuts as the moon landing, and is still friggin THERE.