• TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      ‘Guys, JFK said the same thing.’

      ‘Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.’

      • bobor hrongar@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Doesn’t matter who said that violence is sometimes necessary that still isn’t a valid response to “maybe let’s not just kill people on an ideological basis”

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            7 months ago

            Sure, but the nazis were actually committing violence against their “undesirables” systemically, en masse. Same with slave rebellions, they were very much so morally just.

            However killing my dad because he doesn’t think drag queens should be doing story hour is a bit different. He’s not putting drag queens in camps with signs like “Hosen Macht Frei,” he’s not in support of violence or pogroms to stop them, he’s not attempting to take France and Poland and kill their drag queens, he just is old and doesn’t understand and says words about it. Imo killing people for using their words in a way we don’t like is A) fucked up and B) stooping to the level of the actual nazis, like, the WWII ones.

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              7 months ago

              fascist is a specific thing i’m saying we should attack, and while transphobia is often part of a fascist ideology and movement, it is not sufficient to determine whether the ideology or movement is fascist.

              tldr i didnt say we should kill your dad, i said we should kill fascists.

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            7 months ago

            You kill the Nazis when they’re actively literally killing people, or imminently threatening to, yes. Notice how that is an action, not ideology.

            Do you suggest actually just killing people who are ideologically fascist regardless of what they have or have not actually done?