So what’s your alternative? I’ve lived in planned economy during the socialist era, and it wasn’t exactly great. You had to have friends telling you when shipments of toilet paper or food would arrive and make it early to the shop - otherwise you got nothing, because someone in the central planning office fucked up again.
lol Telling a survivor of the Soviet Union that “we should do communism” is hilariously tone deaf.
Communism is not a logical system. Sure, the ideals of communism sound great. But any system that claims it exists for the common good, while also putting near absolute power into the hands of any party, is naive at best.
Hierarchy doesn’t work. Even if it’s “only for a short transition period.” Communism relies on a group of people to set up systems that work “for the greater good,” and then it relies on those people to willingly relinquish power when the “common good” system is in place.
And that’s where it’s failed every goddamn time. Because putting people in power over others is insane. Expecting them to hand over their nearly unchecked power is beyond insane. It’s stupid.
Hierarchy doesn’t work. Even if it’s “only for a short transition period.”
I agree. That’s why we shouldn’t bother with state socialism and should go straight to communism like I said.
Communism relies on a group of people to set up systems that work “for the greater good,” and then it relies on those people to willingly relinquish power when the “common good” system is in place.
So what’s your alternative? I’ve lived in planned economy during the socialist era, and it wasn’t exactly great. You had to have friends telling you when shipments of toilet paper or food would arrive and make it early to the shop - otherwise you got nothing, because someone in the central planning office fucked up again.
For the record, when and where?
Instead of socialism, we should do communism
lol Telling a survivor of the Soviet Union that “we should do communism” is hilariously tone deaf.
Communism is not a logical system. Sure, the ideals of communism sound great. But any system that claims it exists for the common good, while also putting near absolute power into the hands of any party, is naive at best.
Hierarchy doesn’t work. Even if it’s “only for a short transition period.” Communism relies on a group of people to set up systems that work “for the greater good,” and then it relies on those people to willingly relinquish power when the “common good” system is in place.
And that’s where it’s failed every goddamn time. Because putting people in power over others is insane. Expecting them to hand over their nearly unchecked power is beyond insane. It’s stupid.
Most old people on ex-soviet countries liked it way more than capitalism. If you really are from such place, ask your gramps about shock therapy.
China is literally on the process of surpassing the west right now…
I agree. That’s why we shouldn’t bother with state socialism and should go straight to communism like I said.
It didn’t rely on that in revolutionary catalonia
preach on
This is a false dichotomy. Also, in the case you haven’t notice, this sub is part of a solarpunk server. We want solarpunk :)
Ah, so that’s what the slrpnk is! Still find lemmy weird at times.
The alternative is a cooperation based economy, rather than a competition based one.
You know, like how the very basics of society work. After all, without cooperation society would never exist.