• cm0002@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    The Gimp is a great example of this, super easy to install right out the box for even non-technical people, is open source, doesn’t cost a cent.

    No, it’s not, GIMP has funding, resources and a fucking company behind it lmao and on top of that it’s intended to be an end-user tool

    Not all open source projects are the same, many are just things people work on in their free time and are kind enough to share, many aren’t intended (like this one) for end users at all. They’re meant for people who know what they’re doing (which it’s quite evident you don’t)

    If you want to know who is actually harming the open source community look in a mirror, it’s people like you who whine and bitch about “Meah InstAllers MeH uSEr ExpErIenCe” that makes devs not want to contribute

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      No, it’s not, GIMP has funding,

      That contradicts zero statements I have made, it is still super easy to install, doesn’t cost the user a cent, and is open source.

      Maybe the world would be a better place of more open source projects had funding.

      that makes devs not want to contribute

      If money is so important to them then maybe they should choose not to be open source devs?

      If you cannot adhere to the philosophy then don’t complain when people call you out on it.

      it’s people like you

      It’s people like me that have chosen not to go the open source route due to the difficulty, that is our choice and is the worldwide average choice as hardly anyone ever bothers to deal with all the byzantine bullshit that arrogant elitists like yourself are just giddy over expressing.

      Open Source has failed its original goals due to elitist devs putting up artificial hurdles to general adoption, you don’t get to complain about adoption if you actively narrow your market segment to people who have the time and experience to fix your broken shit before they use it.

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        7 months ago

        Lmao, just because something is open source doesn’t mean the devs are expecting a return. You talk about market segments, adoption rates and funding like that’s the only goal someone has for sharing their project

        You expect someone who put something on GitHub, for free, for everyone, worked on with their spare time because they had a passion for it to have it 100% ready to ship to production complete with an installer and a GUI? Nah, you’re the elitist asshole, you should order more than one mirror.

        That contradicts zero statements I have made, it is still super easy to install, doesn’t cost the user a cent, and is open source

        Yes it does, they have the funding and resources to pay someone to handle the easy installer and user experience, they have teams of people to handle the issues.

        If money is so important to them then maybe they should choose not to be open source devs?

        If you cannot adhere to the philosophy then don’t complain when people call you out on it.

        LMFAO it’s not about the money, it’s time and effort, for one or 2 people maintaining a project they shared and work on in their free time that’s in short supply.

        If you have your panties in such a twist over “User Experience” it’s open source, make your own damn contributions. Contribute an installer then, contribute some infrastructure for a website to have your fancy download button. You talk of open source philosophy, but then instead of contributing to making a project’s user experience better, you just bitch about it instead.

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          You talk about market segments, adoption rates and funding like that’s the only goal someone has for sharing their project

          No I didn’t but the fact you assumed that is telling. You aren’t arguing with me, you are arguing with a mental construct of me with the worst possible arguments. This is bad faith debate and I’m not going to tolerate it much longer.

          Nah, you’re the elitist asshole, you should order more than one mirror.

          Firstly, fuck you, and secondly this is the exact reason open source has lost the software wars. Most of humanity has chosen closed source due to convenience and availability. If open source can’t compete with this, it isn’t the fault of the consumer.

          Your attitude is rancid and is the main reason open source will never be more than a novelty for most people.

          You are like Todd Howard complaining how people are ‘playing starfield wrong’ and insisting that it is a super great game when the vast majority of players disagree. No amount of Todd insulting his userbase is going to make Starfield a good game.

          Yes it does, they have the funding and resources to pay someone to handle the easy installer and user experience, they have teams of people to handle the issues.

          No it doesn’t, my stipulations were ‘free to the user, easy to install, and open source’. I’m not going to repeat myself a third time.

          You are intellectually dishonest and I’m frankly done and blocking you after this reply.

          LMFAO it’s not about the money, it’s time and effort, for one or 2 people maintaining a project they shared and work on in their free time that’s in short supply.

          Ok then maybe we need to make a world where good devs can program all they want for open source projects without having to keep a main job to pay for their needs.

          I’d gladly donate to a foundation who’s purpose is to provide the means for living to teams of dedicated and non-elitist devs.

          If you have your panties in such a twist

          Eat every inch of my ass and beg for seconds, grease stain.