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Calvin (from Calvin & Hobbes) sitting at a lemonade stand, smiling, with a sign that reads, “Trains and micromobility are inevitably the future of urban transportation, whether society wants it or not. CHANGE MY MIND.”

  • SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world
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    Not everyone works in an office. Construction, trades, and utility works still need vehicles to work on and create infrastructure out and indoors.

    You’ll also have tons of people in rural area like farmers and ranchers that still need vehicles.

    That being said most of those vehicles will be electric soon. My company will be moving to electric starting in 3 years.

    PS: I’m a utility worker, and we take our work vehicles home foe weather emergencies, so the transportation line is a little blurred for me

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      Yeah, you still need to transport items, and people that do things with their hands, but surely in most first world countries, these things are a minority of road traffic.

      If you can get those chokepoints out the way, from dystopian 10 lane traffic jams to an overcrowded tube train, everything else would run so much smoother.

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        I would totally love not to be in a traffic jam, especially while on the clock as I don’t get paid for the drive time to and from work.

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        Yeah, you still need to transport items,

        Well, cargo bikes are a thing. You can transport whole fridge there.

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      Construction, trades, and utility works still need vehicles to work on and create infrastructure out and indoors.

      That didn’t stop people before cars. Back then people built small railways if we are talking about construction.

      farmers and ranchers that still need vehicles.

      They need specialized equipment. They need heavy equipment.

      That being said most of those vehicles will be electric soon.

      A car is a car. Another motor doesn’t turn car into magic.

      • SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world
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        That didn’t stop people before cars. Back then people built small railways if we are talking about construction.

        We wouldn’t be having this conversation if it weren’t for vehicles like mine keeping up the internet infrastructure up.

        There’s also no fucking way you going to put train tracks everywhere to keep up infrastructure. That sounds really fucking stupid

        They need specialized equipment. They need heavy equipment.

        This statement makes me feel like I’m responding to a 14 yr old with no life experience. Not even going to bother answering it.

        A car is a car. Another motor doesn’t turn car into magic.

        Electric vehicles have no emissions so there’s no reason people can’t use them specifically for work.

        PS: You can respond but I’m not going to bother with you. There’s no point in having a discussion with someone with illrational and militant about their ideals

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          There’s also no fucking way you going to put train tracks everywhere to keep up infrastructure.

          There’s also no fucking way you going to put ashphalt everywhere to keep up infrastructure.

          That sounds really fucking stupid

          Yep. Didn’t stop from building roads.

          Electric vehicles have no emissions so there’s no reason people can’t use them specifically for work.

          You are correct, vehicles. Car is not the only type of vehicle, it’s one of many. And what I was saying emissions is not the only problem of car.

          You can respond but I’m not going to bother with you

          Ok.

          There’s no point in having a discussion with someone with illrational and militant about their ideals

          Indeed. See, there are topics we agree upon.

      • jj4211@lemmy.world
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        That didn’t stop people before cars.

        Standard of living was much much worse back then.

        They need specialized equipment.

        They also need to get to stores and see friends and family. Asking people to go back to insular homebound living for farm living seems unreasonable.

        Another motor doesn’t turn car into magic.

        However, if electric, it’s no exhaust, options for flexible energy sources, and hopefully long lived and recyclable batteries. If you are more upset about cars getting in the way of walking, then enjoy the walkable communities that exist today. Unfortunately they tend to be pricey.

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          They also need to get to stores

          Well, ok. On farms cars at least make some sense.

          However, if electric, it’s no exhaust, options for flexible energy sources, and hopefully long lived and recyclable batteries.

          Yes, but they still take space, instane car infrastructure is still there and crashes still happen.