As hospitals across Alabama pause IVF treatments, Nikki Haley is suddenly trying to claim she never said what she said.
Former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley is frantically trying to quell the controversy over comments she made about IVF after an Alabama court’s recent ruling that frozen embryos are children.
“We don’t want fertility treatment to shut down, we don’t want them to stop doing IVF treatment, we don’t want them to stop doing artificial insemination,” Haley said on CNN on Thursday. “But I think this needs to be decided by the people in every state. Don’t take away the rights of these physicians and these parents to have these conversations.”
It was Haley’s second such attempt to explain away her controversial stance on the issue. On Wednesday evening, Haley blurted out a much more gibberish response.
“Well first off all, this is, again, I didn’t say that I agreed with the Alabama ruling. The question that I was asked is ‘do I believe an embryo is a baby?’” Haley said on CNN Wednesday evening. “I do think that if you look in the definition, an embryo is considered an unborn baby. And so yes, I believe, from my stance, that that is.”
But calling an embryo—the stage before the microscopic cellular mass is labeled a fetus—an unborn baby is not exactly correct.
You can’t believe anything that comes out of any conservative politician’s mouth.
She can’t even get the definition of embryo right and we should trust her with nukes??
Have you seen the Republican frontrunner? I wouldn’t trust him with rubber ball
A rubber ball? My dude, I wouldn’t even trust Trump with the balls he’s had his entire life.
Seriously, dude already caused the country a ton of damage with them, considering what his children have done.
No I totally would. A nice colorful rubber ball would be really distracting for him.
Who would downvote this? I’ll tell you, the same people that hated the ball cages at the grocery store.
No I hate ball cages, balls need to be free to bounce. Just like their wild ball ancestors.
Personally, I’m thinking about sending my balls to live out the rest of their lives at a nice farm somewhere upstate.
I feel like there is a really good trans joke here … I just don’t know if I want to go there…
Don’t worry, that’s what I was going for myself. 🔪🫒
Oh, so you made the new MLB uniforms?
Is they hold this stance, they are setting it up to come for birth control.
I take some weird, unsettling solace in the fact that IVF and birth control are likely going to be the next major unpredicted backfires for conservatives. They’ve grown so accustomed to going after “them”, and what “they” need, and it’s usually so mutually exclusive with what “we” want and need, that there’s very little risk in pushing their culture wars into the medical realm. But with IVF and birth control you’re suddenly going to see stories plastered all over the media of the impact this is having on “good, traditional, conservative women”. My brother in law (very conservative) just underwent 5+ years of IVF treatments and finally got 2 girls out of the procedure. He’s absolutely ecstatic, and months ago my wife warned him that IVF is under threat in a a post-Roe world. He told her she was being ridiculous and hyperbolic. I haven’t spoken to him since the Alabama ruling, but I hope he’s fucking terrified, both for his wife and his daughters.
Until this directly impacts them and the people they love, they won’t give a single, solitary fuck. So I say, let it. Let it get so bad that they start eating their own. In the meantime, I’ll be lurking in the corner with an “I told you so” smirk on my face.
Fuck. Them. We tried to warn them, and they didn’t listen. So fuck 'em.
First they came for my neighbors…
Nah he already got his kids so he won’t care any more. The next couple doing ivf are evil.
Look, Haley showed how the thought process works in the posted article.
“I was tricked by doctors into getting exactly what I wanted! How was I supposed to know?”
Also:
“I should be in charge of everything!”
He should be scared about the 54
embryoschildren they have.I’d normally be ok with this, but the problem is the “I told you so” smirk doesn’t stop them from fucking up your life as well.
I’ve had a vasectomy and don’t have any children. I’ll be fine.
Ah, the “doesn’t affect me right now, don’t care if it fucks over other people” theory. Or better said the “I only care when it affects me” theory. I understand now.
Look chief, I hate that you’ve made it this far with such awful reading skills, and I’m real sorry your teachers failed at preparing you for the adult world. I’ve been at the forefront of this issue my entire life, and I’ve spent countless hours lobbying, rallying, protesting, and advocating. I’m deeply passionate about this issue, and it horrifies me where we currently are, and the world that little girls are growing up into.
But like I said if you’d gotten your head out of your fucking ass long enough to read what I actually wrote, I’m past the point of caring about the people cheering for this, and I’m morbidly fascinated by the blowback they’re about to create.
When I say, “We tried to warn them, and they didn’t listen”, I’m very clearly talking about conservatives who are cheering this bullshit on, not the women and girls who are still fighting a bloody, uphill battle to reclaim some semblance of dignity and medical autonomy. So you can shove your self righteousness in through your pee hole, because you’re finger wagging at the wrong motherfucker. Moron.
I’ve had a vasectomy and don’t have any children, so it won’t affect my life at all, fortunately.
This is where people are taking issue with your comment. Because you’re guilty of the same attitude that you’re criticizing.
As much as I want them to find out after all the fucking around they’ve done, we’ll all be suffering right alongside them because not all of us are as privileged as you.
Oh fuck off. This is what they said:
the “I told you so” smirk doesn’t stop them from fucking up your life as well.
It literally won’t fuck my life up, because it physically can’t, but that doesn’t have a fucking thing to do with privilege. I paid $1000 that I didn’t have for a surgery that would eliminate the risk for me, because I fear the world we live in and I knew it’d be cheaper than a child. Just because I’m now fertile doesn’t mean I don’t hate this for millions of women. You’re jumping the fuck down my throat for saying something I didn’t say, when I directly responded to an accusation that’s not true. It doesn’t have a damn thing to do with whether or not I care, and you damn well know that. It’d be the same situation if I were 80 years old. Stop hyperventilating about an off the cuff turn of phrase. I’m quite literally on your side here. Jesus fucking Christ y’all.
They said they were gonna.
They’re beyond that already, they’re coming for contraception next.
My dude, what do you think “birth control” is…??
I’m talking about the mifepristone ban, but you’re right, all of it is birth control.
I think he’s saying birth control is the pill and IUD. Contraception also includes condoms. Condoms used to only be accessible to married couples.
Of course they are. They’ll never stop.
Nikki Haley is suddenly trying to claim she never said what she said.
And we thought only Biden and Trump were having cognitive issues…
Nah, this is just saying something moronic and then frantically trying to do damage control when it turned out people didn’t like.
Typical sleazy politician move that has nothing to do with cognitive function.
Nikki Haley is a fundamentalist extremist that is advocating for a full ban on abortions after six weeks (which makes abortions essentially entirely illegal). Just because she isn’t Trump doesn’t mean she isn’t fucking crazy.
Maybe she should get clear on the definitions, and make a statement on what she actually believes.
Because this correction she just made, is based on a very fundamental misunderstanding of what an embryo is.Nah. They are based on a basic misunderstanding of what “the Republican base” actually wants.
Because the anti-choice crowd will not accept any answer other than “life begins at conception.”
Which is weird since their own book explicitly says life begins at first breath, provides instructions for a cheating detecting potion that’ll induce abortion if the woman cheated, etc
If they actually read their book there wouldn’t be any Christians left
Maybe she should get clear on the definitions
She knows. She’s apparently had IVF herself.
What a piece of shit, scumbag hypocrite she is.
In Handmaid’s Tale–esque fashion, Haley has tried to toe the line on the issue of third-party fertility in a futile effort to keep voters from turning away from her floundering campaign, even though she conceived her son via artificial insemination.
Jesus fucking Christ, these people. For fuck’s sake!
Oh Christ here we go again with the StAtEs RiGhTs lie…
It’s one thing if arguments were made in good faith, but these assholes just hide behind the states rights issue until they’re in the position to make it federal…
Those same states will stomp all over city government rights when it comes to district maps, voting locations, schools, and local mandates/statutes. DeSantis even has his fist up Disneyland’s ass. America would be a collection of shitholes if not for federal government. Wouldn’t be surprised if we’d still have slavery.
We do
Can we send all the unused or unwanted embryos to Alabama? If they think they’re children, they’ll want to pay to keep them frozen for all time right?
Don’t take away the rights of these physicians and these parents to have these conversations.”
So… she’s pro choice?
Listen, she’s going to say some stuff and its going to sound good and then you’re going to vote for her to BEAT TRUMP alright? Don’t spend a bunch of time thinking about it. Just VOTE.
Also, she’s a moderate Republican. The “liberal media” tells us this is so, because, uh, reasons. LOL.
No, no. You see, she’s saying you should feel free to talk about it, so long as your conclusion matches her opinion.
IVF for some, miniature American flags for others
Doesn’t matter, the only possible chance Haley has is if Trump gets convicted of something between now and November. Haley is raising awareness for her 2028 campaign.
He’d still be the nominee
I look forward to the maga goons who will keep writing Trumps name in no matter the circumstances. Jail, dead, exiled to Moscow… they’re a cult.
So she doesn’t want IVF to stop but does still think embryos are babies. To me this reads like someone who thinks literally all embryos retrieved during the IVF process must be used. For those who aren’t aware, IVF can potentially end up with 8 or so viable embryos.
She has to know it’s BS because she’s had IVF herself.
Own it, you coward.
Because they know their supporters will only hear the first comments and the people who are on the fence will be the ones paying close enough attention to hear the walk back later.
The comments from The Daily Show on her and her being a so-called “moderate” are even more poignant now.
