I hate the whole concept of references. I don’t want to ask a favor from someone in my past. I don’t want to keep contact info for former bosses or co-workers.

Our society is like:

Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps.

Have personal responsibility.

Your success or your failure is 100% due to your good or poor choices.

Employers: “By the way, you are going to need help from some strangers in your past in order to get a job with our company.”

Companies are constantly trying to figure out how to pay workers less. I would absolutely take less money if the hiring process didn’t have so much hoop-jumping. How has capitalism not figured that one out yet?

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    There’s some people that can’t come up with positive references, even when cherrypicked. I’d probably fall into that group.

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      To my friends who need a professional reference, I always just ask them to sit in on a charity game stream with me. Then I can confidently list them as having contributed to a nonprofit cause with me.

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      Ask your friends. I used to have a home business, and I keep my website active so it looks like I still exist or just recently closed down. If any of my friends need a reference, they know they can put me down and I’ll be happy to say they did whatever they want. A glowing review. “When they were placed in charge of logistics, they reworked our entire system and nearly doubled our efficiency while cutting previously-unnoticed losses.” or whatever fuckin business nerd words are good.

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        That’s what I told my best friend and brothers. List me as a previous freelance boss, I’ll lie for them, fuck companies.

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      Nonsense. I’m an ass, brutally honest to a fault; one of my many. In a world of housecats, I’m a barn cat. I start passionate and I end Hulk.

      I’ve left companies like

      Me “my flight leaves tonight.”

      Them: “oh. Vacation?”

      Me: “noooooo, moving. Here.”

      … And I can find people who’ll speak to a decent work ethic.

      You should be fine.