The opposition has even worse policies than the ones you’re taking issue with Biden for.
And they always will have worse positions. That’s the point.
My country’s elections are and have been presenting a very similar choice to what the Biden vs Trump choice looks like. Do you go and vote for Biden and take another person with you to vote? Hell yes. Have I done so in all elections I could, despite it being made deliberately hard? Also yes.
But if you don’t do anything else, the shit sandwich will get worse and worse, less and less motivating, until the “left” loses so many voters the party will have to shift right again. And again. And again. Rashida Tlaib is saying that supporting Netanyahu’s genocide is too far right for her, and many of her constituents, and maybe the D Party should consider a stance where genocide is not a non-negotiable part of the party platform. Moving right will lose people on the left. And the fact that nobody is representing people on the left does not mean people on the left are responsible for the collapse of democracy in the US.
Tell me, if democracy is so important for the Democratic Party, why are they not pushing for voting reform? Why don’t they campaign against FPTP? That way, the extreme right would get marginalized very quickly. It’s because Biden and the DNC would rather have Trump in the Oval Office than somebody who fixes the problems they are getting rich off of.
Biden is fucking campaigning on “I’d rather you die than I’d let Palestinians live”. Don’t fault people for not wanting to put their name on something that says “I approve of what the US is doing in Israel”.
Tell me, if democracy is so important for the Democratic Party, why are they not pushing for voting reform?
You mean like the Democrats did in 2019 with the “For the People Act” where they passed the house and was blocked and killed by the Republican controlled Senate? source
You mean like when the Democrats tried again and brought it back as the “Freedom to Vote Act” where they AGAIN passed it in the house, and even had control in the Senate but were blocked by Republican filibuster?
You’re blaming Democrats for not doing things, when indeed they are, and letting Republicans off the hook entire for all their success in blocking voting reform.
This has been said over and over, but I’ll repeat. Vote your conscience at the local level. Volunteer for Progressive congressmen/senate/governor/mayor etc. I’m all for it, get more progressives into lower offices, and eventually you can have your serious progressive presidential candidate, that has the backing in the other branches to actually have a foundation to get things done.
But you progressives are playing games with the presidential election, when one of the candidates is literally a Hitler wannabe.
Now is not the time to withhold your Vote because the side that’s obviously far closer to your ideology isn’t a perfect representation.
…and here come the “so you approve of genocide” responses.
You can disapprove of something and also live within the reality of the voting system.
Of course we need voting reform, of course what’s happening to Palestinians has to stop, you should continue to be critical of those things, you should look for ways to hold them accountable.
I just don’t think voting for another party in the presidential election is going to ultimately accomplish your goal.
I think local elections and Congressional elections are where the vote for that change matters most, because Congress are the ones that do voting reform and would enable us to have more nuanced choice than the lesser of two evils
Oh yes, “disapprove of a tiny little thing, don’t be a single issue voter”. That’s a weak ass argument. If you vote for the one that’s unconditionally supporting Israel, the one that said ‘I am a Zionist’ - you are complicit in it. If that’s “the only way to stop Trump”, then maybe you should put a different candidate forward, with views that actually match what people want. Instead of, ya know, putting the one enabling genocide.
No one thinks that.
The opposition has even worse policies than the ones you’re taking issue with Biden for.
It’s always okay to criticize candidates and hold someone accountable but it cuts both ways.
More often than not the critism of Biden boils down to “both sides” or spite voting in a worse option.
And they always will have worse positions. That’s the point.
My country’s elections are and have been presenting a very similar choice to what the Biden vs Trump choice looks like. Do you go and vote for Biden and take another person with you to vote? Hell yes. Have I done so in all elections I could, despite it being made deliberately hard? Also yes.
But if you don’t do anything else, the shit sandwich will get worse and worse, less and less motivating, until the “left” loses so many voters the party will have to shift right again. And again. And again. Rashida Tlaib is saying that supporting Netanyahu’s genocide is too far right for her, and many of her constituents, and maybe the D Party should consider a stance where genocide is not a non-negotiable part of the party platform. Moving right will lose people on the left. And the fact that nobody is representing people on the left does not mean people on the left are responsible for the collapse of democracy in the US.
Tell me, if democracy is so important for the Democratic Party, why are they not pushing for voting reform? Why don’t they campaign against FPTP? That way, the extreme right would get marginalized very quickly. It’s because Biden and the DNC would rather have Trump in the Oval Office than somebody who fixes the problems they are getting rich off of.
Biden is fucking campaigning on “I’d rather you die than I’d let Palestinians live”. Don’t fault people for not wanting to put their name on something that says “I approve of what the US is doing in Israel”.
You mean like the Democrats did in 2019 with the “For the People Act” where they passed the house and was blocked and killed by the Republican controlled Senate? source
You mean like when the Democrats tried again and brought it back as the “Freedom to Vote Act” where they AGAIN passed it in the house, and even had control in the Senate but were blocked by Republican filibuster?
You’re blaming Democrats for not doing things, when indeed they are, and letting Republicans off the hook entire for all their success in blocking voting reform.
This has been said over and over, but I’ll repeat. Vote your conscience at the local level. Volunteer for Progressive congressmen/senate/governor/mayor etc. I’m all for it, get more progressives into lower offices, and eventually you can have your serious progressive presidential candidate, that has the backing in the other branches to actually have a foundation to get things done.
But you progressives are playing games with the presidential election, when one of the candidates is literally a Hitler wannabe.
Now is not the time to withhold your Vote because the side that’s obviously far closer to your ideology isn’t a perfect representation.
…and here come the “so you approve of genocide” responses.
You can disapprove of something and also live within the reality of the voting system.
Of course we need voting reform, of course what’s happening to Palestinians has to stop, you should continue to be critical of those things, you should look for ways to hold them accountable.
I just don’t think voting for another party in the presidential election is going to ultimately accomplish your goal.
I think local elections and Congressional elections are where the vote for that change matters most, because Congress are the ones that do voting reform and would enable us to have more nuanced choice than the lesser of two evils
Oh yes, “disapprove of a tiny little thing, don’t be a single issue voter”. That’s a weak ass argument. If you vote for the one that’s unconditionally supporting Israel, the one that said ‘I am a Zionist’ - you are complicit in it. If that’s “the only way to stop Trump”, then maybe you should put a different candidate forward, with views that actually match what people want. Instead of, ya know, putting the one enabling genocide.
I want then to change too but they won’t unless forced and only way we can force them is to vote in a Congress that will pass voting reform.
If we got rid of first pass the post, then had something like ranked choice our votes could have more nuance than lesser of two evils.
But unfortunately until that’s a reality I don’t see another choice, remember to vote hard in midterms people