I don’t see how the opposite is not correct: god gave us the means to do evil, that we couldn’t do without him. But it is the free will of evil people that turns the ability into reality
Is Einstein evil, for without his theory of relativity, nuclear weapons were not developed, or is he good, for he furthered physics fundamentally?
Is Antonine van Leeuwenhoek good, for his microscopic research lead to microbiology, which led to modern medicine, or is he evil, for without it, there couldn’t be weaponized anthrax?
The possibility, that something good can be used for evil, does not remove the merit of having the good in the first place. Or to put it in mathematic terms:
Plus times Plus equals Plus
Plus times Minus equals Minus
The first factor, which comes from god, is always positive. But the final outcome is determined by the second factor, which is free will.
The first factor, which comes from god, is always positive
I’m sure the babies is Sodom and Gamorah really had it coming.
I’m sure the babies of the Cannanites when Moses and the Israelites were told to genocide them really had it coming.
I’m sure all the babies that died in Noah’s Flood really, really had it coming.
You’re not going to convince anyone on an Atheist thread, because we’ve heard the dogma before and have used logic and reason to come to our own conclusion instead of blindly having faith. Ironic that you’re encouraging blind faith while trying to sprinkle logic into your argument.
Both people you mentioned are humans. According to the bible, they are both evil because all humans are born into sin.
You also cannot say all good things are from God for so so many reasons. But the most obvious one is that you don’t know god, and you don’t know their intentions. What we DO know is that either evil came into existence without God, and God isn’t powerful enough to stop it. Or god allowed it to exist. Or god created it themselves. So which one is it? Also, god has free will so why is their free will good but ours is evil?
I don’t see how the opposite is not correct: god gave us the means to do evil, that we couldn’t do without him. But it is the free will of evil people that turns the ability into reality
Is Einstein evil, for without his theory of relativity, nuclear weapons were not developed, or is he good, for he furthered physics fundamentally?
Is Antonine van Leeuwenhoek good, for his microscopic research lead to microbiology, which led to modern medicine, or is he evil, for without it, there couldn’t be weaponized anthrax?
The possibility, that something good can be used for evil, does not remove the merit of having the good in the first place. Or to put it in mathematic terms:
Plus times Plus equals Plus
Plus times Minus equals Minus
The first factor, which comes from god, is always positive. But the final outcome is determined by the second factor, which is free will.
I’m sure the babies is Sodom and Gamorah really had it coming.
I’m sure the babies of the Cannanites when Moses and the Israelites were told to genocide them really had it coming.
I’m sure all the babies that died in Noah’s Flood really, really had it coming.
You’re not going to convince anyone on an Atheist thread, because we’ve heard the dogma before and have used logic and reason to come to our own conclusion instead of blindly having faith. Ironic that you’re encouraging blind faith while trying to sprinkle logic into your argument.
Both people you mentioned are humans. According to the bible, they are both evil because all humans are born into sin.
You also cannot say all good things are from God for so so many reasons. But the most obvious one is that you don’t know god, and you don’t know their intentions. What we DO know is that either evil came into existence without God, and God isn’t powerful enough to stop it. Or god allowed it to exist. Or god created it themselves. So which one is it? Also, god has free will so why is their free will good but ours is evil?