After Nintendo recently filed a lawsuit against the Yuzu team, it was pretty much inevitable this was going to happen wasn't it.
    • blindsight@beehaw.org
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      7 months ago

      This shouldn’t need to be the case; emulation is legal and has been tried by the courts in several jurisdictions.

      Sucks that laws like the DMCA make it illegal to bypass encryption for the sake of emulation or other fair use, so the legality of emulation isn’t really “enough” in the face of even rudimentary protections.

      The nice thing about loving on a global society is that this can still be legally pursued elsewhere and we can all benefit. (Or coordinated/shared on the dark web, which can be untraceable even for those living in justifications where it might be illegal.)

      In this case, they’ll be fine. They made a LLC and didn’t take any personal liability in the settlement. They can just declare bankruptcy and fold.

      • matcha_addict@lemy.lol
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        7 months ago

        Emulation may be legal on paper, but in the end, we are rarely ever a match for such massive corporations, and a legal system that lets them get away with outspending you on legal fees.

      • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
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        7 months ago

        Sucks that laws like the DMCA make it illegal to bypass encryption for the sake of emulation or other fair use

        IANAL, but there are a bunch of carve outs for these purposes.

        It’s unclear how this would have actually shaken out, but probably just because Nintendo is Nintendo, it would have gone in their favor. And yuzu didn’t want to be the one to set bad precedent for any future endeavors.

  • NOPper@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I’m planning to just Google my way out of this, but what’s the cleanest way to block the repo I’ve been using in yay from updates without uninstalling the version I’ve got running already?

    • guywithoutaname@lemm.ee
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      7 months ago

      Are you using the AUR? The package will probably just get orphaned or the upstream will change to a duplicate repo. I don’t see Yuzu or Citra going anywhere considering they are open source.

      • NOPper@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Yeah pretty sure I installed the experimental branch from the AUR. I just didn’t want the repo to be poisoned or something. 🤷‍♂️

        Thanks for the info!

  • LalSalaamComrade@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    7 months ago

    Nintendo screwed big time. Now there’s going to be multiple forks of Yuzu all over the internet. And on every self-hosted Git forge.

    • Bilb!@lem.monsterEnglish
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      7 months ago

      The bigger deal is that development by this team has been halted, not that it will be a little harder to find a trustworthy download of the most recent version.

      • Fisch@lemmy.ml
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        7 months ago

        That’s only temporary tho. One fork will emerge as the replacement everyone goes to, including the developers who were only working on Yuzu and Citra as volunteers. We know what Nintendo was sueing over, so that can probably be avoided in that fork.

      • nailoC5@lemy.lol
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        7 months ago

        Yep. This is more to stop the emulation of their next console than anything else. Especially considering it’s likely to be a just slightly better Switch.

        • sleepyTonia@programming.dev
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          7 months ago

          Honestly, I’ll think more than twice before buying that thing if it really just is a Switch refresh. Not even taking into account the fact that whether it’s Yuzu or not, it’ll probably be supported by a Switch emulator in a comically short time after coming out. I’m still waiting for some insider leaks ten years from now revealing the Switch was indeed just some rebranded gaming tablet. Too many half-assed features, both on the firmware/OS side of things, but also the controller connectivity and drifting. It’s their worst console up to now. But damn, are their games fun.

  • macniel@feddit.de
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    7 months ago

    fuck Nintendo, I’ll never support them or buy anything related to them ever again.

          • Fisch@lemmy.ml
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            7 months ago

            Because people think that Nintendo deserves that money and pirating is unfair and wrong. In a vacuum, they do make good games that are worth the money but with all the shit they’re pulling, they’re basically abusing the law and their power as a huge company to force people to do what they want. That’s why, in my eyes, it’s only fair to pirate their stuff. If they’re gonna play unfair, so am I. There’s a huge chunk of people who aren’t that well informed on what Nintendo’s doing and why it’s wrong, who don’t want to do something illegal or who just want the convenience tho.

    • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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      7 months ago

      I feel like the people saying this now aren’t going to follow through and will buy future Nintendo products. If this behavior was a deal breaker for you then you would already be boycotting Nintendo.

  • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    7 months ago

    Holy shit this thing smells so bad. The announcement reads like “Nintendo’s legal team wrote this in exchange for 1 mill smaller settlement”

  • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
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    7 months ago

    Where does a FOSS project find $2.4M? They weren’t selling anything were they? They can’t really have that big of a war chest can they?

    • Moonrise2473@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      They don’t have it. It’s a limited liability company so in this way they will pay only the sum of their assets (=bankruptcy) which is lower than legal expenses against a Goliath and definitely lower than 2.4 million. I’m guessing 1000x lower than the settled amount or they wouldn’t have reason to found the LLC in first place or to settle this easy and this fast

    • Fubarberry@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      7 months ago

      My understanding is they’ve been making 30k a month from their Patreon.

      Which is also the main reason they were vulnerable to a lawsuit, because they’ve been profiting off of the emulator (which why legal by itself, is only popular enough to make money due to piracy).

      • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
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        7 months ago

        $2.4M is 8 years’ worth in that case, assuming they were making that much the entire time. And of course a lot of that money was probably for the devs to afford basic living expenses.

        • Fubarberry@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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          7 months ago

          6 years and 8 months, but yeah I can’t see them having the money, even if they saved everything.

        • willya@lemmyf.ukEnglish
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          7 months ago

          Is this your first time venturing on to Patreon? The YouTube channel cold ones makes $84k a month from Patreon and they just get drunk, smash shit, and play video games.

        • Fubarberry@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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          7 months ago

          The most recent version of Yuzu (which theoretically has the best performance) is semi-locked behind their Patreon.

          This was especially important when TotK came out, because they were making a bunch of tweaks to improve performance for that game. So people who wanted to play TotK needed to subscribe to get the best results (or build from source, I’m assuming).

    • T (they/she)@beehaw.org
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      7 months ago

      Can’t they just file for bankruptcy or something like that and not really pay the money? I think it isn’t about the cash, but just shutting the project down

  • Lojcs@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    They’re shutting down the website too :( I really liked the in depth update logs. Yuzu (the website, emulator, android app) felt so extraordinarily polished for an emulator too. Shame Nintendo

  • mudle@lemmy.mlM
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    7 months ago

    As of right now, both Citra and Yuzu are available via Flathub!!! Get them now if you don’t have it!!!

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    7 months ago

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