There’s a sense of desperation in that post. I think they can tell they’re losing ground fast.
How tf is this even legal? This is literally foreign state-sponsored corruption.
But sure, yeah… go ahead and just not vote. Letting Trump in will be so much better for the Palestinians.
A week ago, the difference between the two would have been that Trump would enable Israel in every way, while Biden would enable Israel in every way, but staffers would leak stories about how much Biden didn’t like Netanyahu from time to time. Now, Biden has started sending aid to Gaza while Harris is calling for a ceasefire, and this is entirely because 100K voters in Michigan voted uncommitted. When done properly, threatening to withhold your vote can be an effective way to make your voice heard.
I think you make a great point, but I would add a caveat. There IS a difference between Biden and trump. One will listen to protesters, and the other won’t. You can pressure Biden and he will change his position because he seems to care what voters think, and Trump doesn’t.
Yeah, I agree with that. And, to be clear, I think there have always been tons of differences between Biden and Trump on almost every issue besides Israel/Gaza. I was just saying that, on this single issue, the difference between Biden and Trump would have been mostly rhetoric, not policy, up until the Michigan primary voters convinced Biden to change. I definitely didn’t mean to imply they were generally the same.
this is entirely because 100K voters in Michigan voted uncommitted
Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.
To be clear, I have no problem with people in Michigan voting uncommitted, I just don’t think you can draw that line.
The ‘uncommitted’ voters will think that they changed Biden’s mind, but most likely he was going to start sending aiding to Gaza anyway. He doesn’t like Netanyahu and probably genuinely does want peace.
At the same time the ‘uncommitted’ stunt has turned voters against Biden. Remember the average voter is functioning at grade 8 or grade 6 level. Educated voters will see this as the political maneuvers that it is, the average ‘grade 6’ mental age voter will think ‘Biden sucks’, and not vote.
I’m afraid that there was a near instantaneous shift in his rhetoric after Michigan.
Biden’s entire approach to Isreal changed almost on a dime after that primary. He started aid drops to Gaza, Kamala Harris suddenly started using the word, “ceasefire,” he brought Netanyahu’s chief opponent to discuss the humanitarian crisis in Gaza…Biden obviously didn’t come out and say, “I’m changing my approach to Isreal because I’m afraid of losing Michigan,” but it’s pretty clear why this shift is occurring.
It’s certainly possible. My opinion has long been that politicians are not really all that responsive to public opinion.
Now, Biden has started sending aid to Gaza
But he hasn’t stopped sending weapons to Israel
Letting Trump in
Winner-take-all electoral college means you never really had a voice in the matter.
You should have moved to a Blue State before 2020, so your physical presence could be used to tip how many electoral votes that state produced, if you really cared about stopping Trump in 2024. That’s the only consequential method of putting a (very tiny) finger on the scale of a Presidential contest.
He must mean finish the “solution”
The dude talks at a 3rd grade level.
I think here he is thinking of “finish” in the sense of “finishing off”, not in the sense of “finishing up with”. He is not wishing for Israel to “solve” the issue, he is calling for them to kill all Palestinians.
At least in my reading.
The quote is “You have to finish the problem,”. English is inexact but it seems clear to my reading that Trump means exterminating Palestinians or at least Hamas.
It’s just an awkward rephrasing to avoid the words “final solution”, which is what he really wanted to say, but that’s still a bit too mask off for now.
I think it’s supposed to be vague enough that they can tell “moderates” it means “finish the conflict” but the MAGAs understand it as “final solution.”
I doubt Trump puts so much thought into his choice of words.
I don’t think he walks in there with notecards, no. I think he’s in the habit of trying to talk like Stringer Bell about things after decades of being a modestly successful white collar criminal. I think that at this point answering questions with vague phrases isn’t a conscious strategy so much as just part of who he is.
if you haven’t caught on to Trump’s imply/deny strategy yet then I think you’re a very fine person who needs to stand back and stand by
Jesus fuck trump is one dumb mother fucker. So many dipshits were gonna not vote for Biden because of his non committal bullshit when it comes to Gaza. Which, ill admit, is annoying me as well but obviously not so much I’m gonna not vote.
Then this orange fuck comes along and makes sure to push those people back to Biden.
If he comes out saying anything other than “kill all the brown people, especially the children” his base will get suspicious.
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The DNC would prefer voters let them finish the problem.
Trump is so dumb he destroys the carefully crafted russian narrative that actually might have won hin that whole thing, because some leftist are just to dumb. It’s stupidity all the way down and up.
Man, I was worried for a second he would take the opposite stance.
I’m really torn on this one. On the one hand, Republicans ALWAYS take the exact opposite stance of Democrats so they can set up the argument as “Democrats bad” but on the other hand Trump is such a massive pile of shit that he would totally be for “bombing dark skinned people” just because.
I thought this was a satricial publication for a solid minute. Until I saw the tweet.
Trump isn’t lying I think. I just don’t think the Middle East will sit idly by after his final solution.
Doesnt he knows that his master, putin created that problem, to make west turn away from from ukraine?
Color me surprised that the facist sympathizes with other fascists committing a genocide.
I’ve asked it before, but I wonder how Hitler would react to Israel. Probably be beaming with pride, like a master does when their apprentice surpasses them. I imagine when Netanyahu finally shuffles his way off this mortal coil, and his soul goes wherever Hitler’s is, Adolf will probably shake his hand.
Unless I’m getting wooshed on sarcasm… you realize Israel is full of the descendants of the Jewish people Hitler displaced, right?
In the magical world of Lemmy, it’s perfectly ok to compare Israel to Nazis. This place is like a bad trip sometimes.
Trump loving other countries doing “strong man” types of atrocities? Who would have thought!
It was because Biden and the Democrats were against it. Trump literally looks at when the Dems are doing and says they are the exact opposite of it.
Same happened with the US border. The Reps kept demanding money for border security for months, including Trump. In the end, Biden agreed they could have it. The moment the Dems were ok with this, Trump demanded that the Reps be against it, and the Reps voted against the money. It didn’t happen in the end.
lmao the Dems have never not supported the genocide. Republicans just supported it more because Jesus and war
https://english.ahram.org.eg/News/518937.aspx
He literally asked for a ceasefire yesterday, it’s why Trump is against it now.
Shipping weapons used in genocide is supporting genocide and you know it.
I agree, I said never not supported, which I realize is a bit confusing. Maybe the not should be all caps
Whoops. I misread that. My bad.
You’re wrong about the border. One of his main shticks is immigrates invading the country over the southern border. If they passed the border bill, and Biden shut down the border, he loses a huge talking point with his base and a huge fear of theirs that he can prey on.
He didn’t block it because Democrats were for it, he blocked it because he doesn’t actually care about protecting his base from any invasion, he cares only about himself.
You’ll see that he’ll keep talking about the border.
He didn’t block it because Democrats were for it, he blocked it because he doesn’t actually care about protecting his base from any invasion, he cares only about himself.
That’s a lot of words to say that trump tanked the border deal because the Democrats were ok with it.
No, it’s saying he tanked it because he wants to border to be open because he believe it helps him win.
Hell, the Democrats aren’t even “for it” it was just compromise…or really I think it was a political move to take that away from trump and get what they think is important (support for Ukraine).
Again, just watch, he’ll hammer on the border over and over again during the general election. At that point will you admit I’m right?
At that point will you admit I’m right?
Nix this part and you’re good, chief.
I tend to respond to obnoxiousness in kind. It’s certainly a weakness of mine.
I do the same, but I have been trying to build the habit of not doing it.
So, you’re saying that Trump and Republicans haven’t been demanding money for the border for months, and that when the Democrats finally agreed to the funding, the Republicans didn’t suddenly vote against it?
No, I’m not saying that. Feel free to read my clarification again.
(Edit) Sorry thought this was in the same chain. No, I’m not saying that. I’m saying he wants the border open because he thinks it helps him win. he isn’t vocally against border security now, he’ll continue to hammer away at it because its red meat for his base. He’s against it getting closed because then he can’t hammer away at it.
I wasn’t saying he was against border security either though. I’m saying he was suddenly against funding anything to do with it the moment the Dems were acceptable to funding it (doesn’t matter the reason for it).
He could have crowed on that the security happened because of Reps and his lobbying, but instead went against funding it the moment Dems said yes to it.
Except he’s going to continue to harp on border security. He isn’t taking the position because he just does the opposite of the Dems, he blocked it because it takes away a talking point. Now he can and will continue to talk about it. He didn’t even change his position.
He didn’t block it because Democrats were for it, he blocked it because he doesn’t actually care about protecting his base from any invasion, he cares only about himself.
It’s worse than that. Far right extremist politicians want the country to suffer. The worse it is, the better they are doing. So he’s not only not caring about people suffering but he wants them to suffer!
I’m sure some people are having the same sentiments about Donald Trump right now.
So he openly proposes the Endlösung? Wherever you are in the US, kick some grandpa’s ass (provided they helped rid Europe of Hitler) and stump their noses into this topic so they see what Trump is.
