Like even if they have nothing else they could just leak IP is there any law against it ? Or any technical aspect stopping them ?

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    Nobody cares about your IP. Admins can see it, they can see mine, they don’t care.

    If you want to be paranoid use mullvad and call it a day.

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    Nothing stops them.

    Don’t worry too hard about the ip though, there’s plenty of servers still running versions with insecure pms and that seems like a much bigger problem than ip addresses.

    What are you concerned about? maybe I can help you figure out a way to mitigate it.

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        Well, ip leak would be useful for me if I were trying to figure out your general location, the specific edge device that you’re behind or if I were compiling a massive dataset to find a vulnerability.

        In the first case, don’t worry about it. Ip addresses are allocated to the provider and dynamically assigned such that without a huge corroborating dataset or at least a couple of recent delivery records cross referenced to an online order someone can’t reasonably figure out your home address from it.

        The second thing is inherent to the design of the internet, but the danger of someone knowing the ip of the edge device you’re sitting behind can be mitigated by securing that device. The easy stuff would be like turning off web console or snmp on wan, picking a good password, making sure its firmware is updated etc. if you’re forwarding ports or self hosting it gets more complex but that’s how you can make it “okay” that anyone could know your ip.

        The third thing is complex and at this point requires a fundamental change in the way you view computer&web usage, communication and most likely a subscription to some scrubbing service. Sorry, we live in the bad timeline.

        All three can be either mitigated or assisted by the use of a vpn. You have to pay for a vpn, the free options are monetized by bundling and selling the data that goes through them.

        If there’s something I missed or whatever, lmk.

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            Get a vpn. It’ll make you less worried.

            The gold standard is mullvad paid for with cash, but lots of stuff blocks their exit ips so if you get pissed off by that, use express or nord or whatever gets high ratings from websites that see if their exit nodes are blocked.

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    Serious answer: nothing except their own lack of access to anything except the ip address and whatever you give them.

    But that’s easy to counter with a VPN and a bit of common sense.

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    Technical measures are impossible in this particular case. However, I would say that the complete lack of benefits or incentives makes it very unlikely. Doing so could be illegal and collecting data which is otherwise useless is only a liability and a waste of resources. Basically the admin own self-interest I would say is what’s stopping them. That said, if someone is individually afraid due to a bad relationship with an admin, then personal motives could void the above, in which case, they should change instance probably or use a VPN at least.

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    Nobody cares about ips. This is mine: 193.81.127.151 . Try to find out anything about me exept my approximate location.

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    Oh my… This whole thread is literally the best of ‘Do you have something to hide?’, ‘Why should they use it?’, ‘What could happen?’, ‘That’s paranoid’ and so on.

    Really disappointing.

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    You’re connecting to their servers. They’re going to get your IP. This is unavoidable.

    They can even * [gasp] * read the messages and things you willingly post onto their servers.

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    Maliciously Leaking IP is doxxing, doxxing is illegal.
    That said, law enforcement can just request for the IP/Logs and they’ll likely hand them over.

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        Oh, it’s an android app? Then your IP is pretty much worthless if I’m not mistaken. You should get a new IP every time you make a new connection. Just test it. Go to https://whatismyipaddress.com/ , turn off your data, turn it back on, reload the webpage. Mine gives me a new IP every time I turn off cell data.

        Also, there’s a TOR android app.

        CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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          Yeay i use the android tor bruh what did you think ? Also does it matter if it resets ip everytime like isn’t it still geo traceble ?

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            This only works when using Mobile Data. You will most likely have the same WAN address if using WiFi. Dynamic WAN addresses do change periodically, however at the whim of your ISP. Now unless you pay for a static IP address, this local WAN address is also useless. Hell even a static IP address doesn’t open you up to much harm.

            As far as geolocation goes: IP’s are given in blocks, no one will be able to get your precise location, only what ever your ISP is broadcasting.

            My location will sometimes show Seattle, other times MPLS, all depends on whichever route it takes.

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    Ethically it’d be shitty and people don’t want to be part of an instance with shitty admins so people would migrate away. Technically, nothing unless you’re using a VPN. Welcome to the internet, the same is true for every website

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      Also there’s the aspect of just… not caring. As someone who technically could read the email, browse the files, or track the apps installed and used on the phone of nearly any person where I work, any small bit of idle curiousity died before I was done my first day.

      Even if I was nosy, 99% of people are just not that fucking interesting. What would even be the point of abusing my access?

      I’ve seen someone put it like this: male gynecologists don’t get excited looking at lady bits at work.

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        I was able to do that for years. For me to give a shit what’s in your email you have to be more interesting than the rest of the internet, which pretty much means you’d have to be doing something at least borderline illegal and have it brought to my attention by someone who noticed it over your shoulder.

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    Don’t let your guard down but at some point trust and risk consideration is required for most systems to work. If you’re after solutions; you could run your own node in the cloud and federate it.