So this means he’s Definitely refusing to debate him. What a shit. Murica, you vote this guy in and I think I’m all out of sympathy.
Dude it’s not me, it’s them. There’s a weird division in this country and for some reason there are people on the other side.
Bro I’m a leftist and I’m voting for Trump this time. If you want to win, don’t run a genocider. Myself and other leftists have a few very hard and fast rules, and genocide is one of them. Id rather have J6 #2 than trail of tears #2
A Trump presidency will lead to an environmental disaster on a massive scale, we’ll basically be a petro state with a dictator.
Bro I’m a leftist and I’m voting for Trump this time.
#doubt
Of course the brain drain propagandist from .ml supports Putin’s puppet.
What the fuck mate.
Trump literally just said “time to finish the problem” regarding the Israeli bombardment of Gaza.
I know it’s a shit choice, but it’s the choice between the status quo of global imperialism, or global imperialism AND domestic fascism.
I don’t want either of these things, but I really don’t want to get executed at home.
Okay but we all know we can’t believe anything trump says, especially anything he only says once. He didn’t even build the wall last time, and he said that thousands of times. What he did do is get us out of Afghanistan. So yes, he MIGHT keep doing the genocide, but Biden definitely will. Trump is the only president in 50 years (maybe 100 or 150?) to not start a new war. So if we’re going off what he each man actually DID, trump is the obvious choice, because he didn’t do a genocide and did end a war.
Leftist my fuckin ass. Go away liar.
No wait, you have to call me a Russian troll first, or else you haven’t finished deflecting an argument you’ve already lost. Do you even know the first thing about being a lib online?
You may want to brush up on some reading comprehension. I didn’t offer an argument. I just pointed out that you are a liar.
Trump said he’d make the courts partisan and he did exactly that. Now we have some of the most extreme right wing federal courts, and an extremist christofascist supreme court.
Alabama declared that IVF embryos are children. A federal court is arguing that FDA overstepped in approval of mifeprostone, an abortifacient and uterotonic medication that is considered essential to first world medical care. Roe v. Wade overturned. Gay marriage on the docket. Interracial marriage in their sights.
Do you really want to have Gilead at home?
Okay, so nominate a guy who isn’t genocidal. Leftists arent going to vote for a genocider, so give us somebody we can vote for. If I knew for a fact Trump would overturn roe v wade, and also attempt another coup, id still vote for him, because he didn’t do a genocide. Like I’ve said, I’ll take J6 part 2 over trail of tears part 2 every time.
We are NOT asking that much. Literally all we want is a guy who hasn’t already committed a genocide. If y’all can’t give that to us, it is not OUR fault when roe v wade gets overturned, it’s yours. You didn’t give us a choice in the matter. Waving off genocide warning signs is exactly how Germany got Hitler, and if the American voter does NOTHING else, the least we can possibly do for the world is not have a second Holocaust.
I don’t care how it happens, but I think I speak for all true leftists when I say we will never vote for a genocider, period. I agree with you that trump is awful, but the Democrats have made him the only valid choice, and so I will be voting for the only candidate that good people are allowed to vote for. If Dems actually want to defeat Trump, they’ll put up someone else. Personally I don’t actually think they give a shit, cause the spice must flow.
I’m not even saying they have to oppose the genocide. Just stop funding it. Stop making me directly complicit.
We all said never again, and some of us meant it.
You don’t speak for all leftists.
Signed, a leftist.
fuck off moron
Okay genocider.
https://lemmy.world/post/12780782
Trump is a “genocider” and he’ll expand upon the genocide already being committed, while cutting all attempts to provide aid to Gaza, closing our borders to refugees and torpedoing any chance of a free and fair elections again.
If you vote trump because he’s not currently the president during this current iteration of Israel+Palestine violence, then you are a fucking moron. That’s a collective “you” by the way, no one in particular.
He might do that. But we all know that trump saying something has a very low correlation with him actually doing it. He ended the war in Afghanistan, a war which Biden spent 8 years overseeing and not ending. And I don’t think trump can personally gain from the genocide continuing, so I don’t see a reason he wouldn’t end this too. Trump has a history of peace, his rhetoric isn’t as bad as Bidens, what he actually says he will do isn’t as bad as what Biden says he will do, AND… he isn’t currently the guy doing it. I pretty much only care about this issue at this point, and I just don’t see trump actually being worse than Biden on it. Biden’s handlers care about maintaining the military industrial complex. Trump’s handlers care about scamming the government $1 million at a time. If the end result is Trump steals a billion dollars and attempts a coup again, that is a fantastic outcome for us.
He might do that.
He might. He also has a history of enacting racist and anti-muslim policies to throw meat to his moronic base of chuds. He also has a history of backing Israel, such as backing them creating illegal settlements in the west bank. So I believe trump, and his republican ilk will jump at the chance to use our military and financial institutions to harm Palestinians, as the historically have for the last 60+ years.
But we all know that trump saying something has a very low correlation with him actually doing it.
All the more reason not to trust him as the president.
He ended the war in Afghanistan, a war which Biden spent 8 years overseeing and not ending.
No, he didn’t. He made the same commitment to end the war, after his presidency, that every president since Bush has made. Only Biden was willing to take the actual blame for pulling out of that quagmire.
Trump has a history of peace
No he doesn’t. He ordered a drone strike on an Iranian general in another sovereign country on a diplomatic mission. Mainly because he wanted to brag about killing “terrorists”, since the Obama admin got to take down Bin-Laden.
I pretty much only care about this issue at this point…
And yet you have selected the almost universally recognized, absofuckinglute worst possible person to end this peacefully.
Please stop. Just stop. Trump has never made anything better, ever. Period. Full stop. Don’t vote for him.
Afaik, Biden could not possibly have gotten out of Afghanistan in 2-3 months without actual moves that were made by the trump admin.
Idk how the drone strike issue lines up, but I mean, at least the ones trump did hit military personnel. Obama went after all of: an American citizen, a wedding, and a hospital. Trump could certainly be worse than Obama on that though.
It’s not like I want to vote for trump. I’m just obviously going to pick the doofus con artist over the guy currently committing a genocide. I would vote for trump over Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot too, to be clear. Yeah, trump might just keep doing it. But he also might not. And we know Joe ain’t gonna do shit to end it.
Trump loving America is not the majority of America. It’s not even half. It’s just the “voting age” almost-halfz which is what, 30% of all Americans?
The reason Trump won in 2016 is because many people who didn’t like Hilary didn’t vote. And even so, Hilary got 2 million more votes than Trump.
Then Trump lost to Biden. If he was so popular, he would have won a second term.
So, no. Please don’t think that the majority of Americans are deplorables.
I don’t think that, but a trump win means not enough people with half a brain got out and voted. In an election like this that makes you every bit as deplorable as the Trump lovers.
Not everyone in Soddom and Gomerra were terrible, but when enough fruits are sour you gotta just avoid the whole batch.
I don’t understand the point of your comment, but okay. The reality of the matter is, most American people abhor Trump, so they will make sure he stays a loser.
But what does all that count for when people are busier finding excuses to not vote for Biden than to vote against the orange Putin?
That doesn’t change the fact that Trump didn’t get reelected (which is almost always the norm in U.S. politics) because people realized their mistake. Biden ain’t a saint, but at least he’s not a scorched-Earth asshole like Trump, and most Americans know that.
I hope what you say is also true this time around. Which is not guaranteed.
Definitely not guaranteed, but again, I think most Americans learned their lesson with the Hilary/Trump fiasco. They thought Hilary winning was a given, it was guaranteed and, well, it wasn’t. So the America people wised up.
When you hear that “people are losing faith in Biden,” you have to be reaaaally careful as to who is driving that narrative. Hint: the voices are not coming from within the room.
Yet you (America) still vote this guy in. Somethings rotten and wrong over there and you guys better figure it out.
Uh, we did figure it out? Did you miss the part in which Trump is no longer president?
Did you though? He’s running again with a good chance to become president, again.
I can only speak for myself but I am sick and tired of the fate of the world hanging on whatever mentally deranged and unhinged extremist the US might elect every few years. Aren’t you supposed to be the oldest democracy in the world? I expect as much from countries like Russia or China but the US should do better.
The world needs the US to do better.
Again, Trump is not president. He lost. He didn’t win a reelection. He couldn’t even, as the most powerful man on Earth (supposedly), overturn the elections. He will never see the inside of the White House again. Just make sure your vote counts.
In Germany we’ve something we call “wehrhafte Demokratie” which basically means a democracy capable of defending itself. There are measures in place (in theory) that prevent parties that aim to destroy the democracy from getting into power by winning elections.
Someone who openly admits his goal is to end democracy shouldn’t be able to run for president. It’s what happened in Germany back in 1933. Hitler won the general election and took over the government via democratic means and within weeks destroyed the democracy. Never again (hopefully)
We can’t pull a France. The police are already trigger happy and willing to work with non-police that have guns and just as trigger happy. You take charge for a bit and have your country become more influential ty.
‘debate’
Biden should decline. It’s the winning move. Remember the last debates Trump did? Yeah, those weren’t good for anyone. Just let trump keep getting amped up about it then decline. It’s when he gets cocky and starts calling Biden scared he should go with the sole purpose of dunking on Trump. Dont talk to the American people. Just dunk on trump.
Thnk you for reading my fan fic.
May I suggest the humble Four Seasons? Would be great if we could Rudy Giuliani to serve refreshments to the audience.
Debate deez nuts
Trump lost every debate he has been in. Biden needs to get Trump to agree to 3 debates right now.
Yeah… Idk what is to be gained from this.
Trump: YOU’RE A COMMUNIST! HUNTER BIDEN! GINA GINA CHHHHHIIIINNNNNAAAA!
Biden: Wha-
Trump: YOURE A COMMUNIST OBAMA! NANCY PELOSI AND HUNTER BIDEN! BIDEN CRIME FAMILY!
Biden: Will you ju-
Trump: THE BORDER! AWFUL BORDER! COCKROACHS! HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG! NANCY PELOSI!
Biden: Oh for Christ-
Trump: BIDEN FAILING ECONOMY! UKRANE NAZIS! I LOVE PUTINS DICK IN MY MOUTH!!
Biden: Excuse me?
THE RADICAL LEFT THUGS! THE MARXIST, COMMUNIST, FASCIST DEMOCRATS!
I mean, exactly? That is what would be gained. Independents and Haley voters would watch that and hate it and it would help Biden.
Disagree. A Trump/Biden debate probably doesn’t move the needle much at all for anybody. Trump’s brash refusal to debate with civility looks as good to his base as it looks bad to Biden’s. I don’t see a point. It only gives Trump air time he doesn’t deserve.
The people who love Trump debates love them because that is how they debate at family dinner. Biden supporters hate Trump debates because it reminds them of the dinner table debates they had to deal with.
I have a proposal…
I’d not seen that out of the water and it straight up looks like a pocket pussy.
Only dicks go inside.
Ok this made me bust out laughing. Well played.
A modest proposal even
I hear it uses cheap off the shelf parts.
We steer it with a knock-off Xbox controller!
Biden should not be debating seditious criminals.
“at the end of this kind of long hallway”
This is the first time I’ve truly not cared at all about whether or not there is a presidential debate
Yeah, I always try to watch the debates, always. I’m a big fun of the democratic process, and I always like to try and give the candidates a chance to make their case, even if I know I probably won’t vote for them. But you’re right, I really don’t give a crap about the debate. It’s just going to be a globally publicized shit show, nothing productive is going to come out of it, and it’s not going to change my mind. There’s nothing Trump can realistically say that will get me to vote for him, and I’d, very seriously, sooner have Vermin Supreme for president before Trump.
Any debate with Trump in it is a farce. He just tries to interrupt, talk over, and talk louder than his opponent. It’s all part of his faux-macho “establish dominance” strategy, just like when he pulls people toward him when he shakes their hand to knock them off balance. Remember the Gorsuch handshake?
Alright so we should get him to show up to a live interview on something and ask him the question, have biden in the back come out right then…
“what’s this?! It’s Joe Biden! And he has a Steel Chair!!!”
Lol exactly. Trump voters would have such mixed emotions
Yea, Timmy. Wanna fight after school? Wait, you do? Well, I would, but my mommy said I can’t.
Oh, the Elon method?
Tomorrow night, my bathroom. Let’s go!
Anywhere? Okay, how about at the bottom of the Mariana trench?
How about at the top or bottom of a ramp. Can he still do that? Amazing man.
can we leave them there? I now we shouldn’t litter, but it’s for a good cause.
It’s ok they’re mostly biodegradable. Mostly.
One much more than the other
Do you think Trump’s spray-tan would come loose in chunks, or would it stay as a single vaguely face-shaped film?
C’mon man. You know only one would show up.
Venus? Neptune? Alpha Centauri?
He cannot debate. He yells. Acts as a rotten child. There is no benefit to Biden.
