• MechanicalJester@lemm.ee
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      4 months ago

      I truly believe it is plausible because I worked somewhere that tried crap like that frequently.

      Someone posted a scathing review on Glassdoor and one of the owners responded by threatening to kill himself if they didn’t take the post down. Not, like in an email, no as a post. And gave his name and phone number.

  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    No, this both uncommon and illegal (assuming it’s from the US). They’re trying to couch their wage theft in legal jargon to scare the unwitting into accepting it

    • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      I don’t think it holds up in court even if you sign it. It’s why contracts usually have clauses that if part of it is found void the whole contract is not void. You can’t do something illegal because you made someone sign a contract for it.

  • DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyzEnglish
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    4 months ago

    You don’t have to ask us. Contact your state’s attorney general and/or workforce commission directly. They’ll know.

  • something183786@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    4 months ago

    If you are in the US, that’s likely very illegal. Wherever you are, talk to your state, Providence, federal, etc. labor board.

  • Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    No. That sounds like wage theft. If my boss pulled something like that I’d be on the phone with my state’s department of labor so freakin’ fast. If you worked the hours they have to pay you for it.

    Even if it weren’t illegal, it’d be a big flashing neon sign saying, “We will screw you over every chance we get, and you will be nothing but miserable working here.”

  • laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 months ago

    My gut reaction is to say “that’s blatantly illegal”, but maybe local law is different… I’m pretty sure it’s not legal in the US at the very least though

  • Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Okay so first off if this a job you are thinking about taking just don’t. Legal or not I have never had a job do anything like this or anything close. At the very best they are looking to screw you, at worst they are stealing.

    As for if this is legal (nal) my understanding is that for no reason can a company in the US dock, fine or in any other way deny you wages for any work already performed. It doesn’t matter if you did the work you need to be paid at the agreed rate. They can come up to you and just say that from this point forward the pay will be different, but only for future work.

    The one exception to this that I am aware of is if you sign an agreement with them that lets them do this. Such as fines for lost uniforms. Often this will end up in a legal grey area though very few good businesses will do this.

    TLDR business have to pay you for time worked. Crash the company truck they can fire you, but that last check has to be in full.

    • fluckx@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Businesses can tell you from this point onward your wage will lower in the US?

      That can’t be legal can it? That’s a one sided change of contract.

      • Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        The vast majority of employment is not under contract. That is why employment can be severed by either party at any time. So an employer could change a wage on an employee but there is nothing saying the employee has to accept it.

          • Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            No there is an employment agreement, but not a contract. So the employee and employer both agree to the terms of the work. This is just no requirement for the agreement to continue if either party wants to sever the agreement.

      • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        We don’t get employment contracts anymore, ever since every state passed “at will” employment laws. Companies can drop you at any time for any reason that isn’t one of a very small list ( racial discrimination, union retaliation, etc) with no notice to you beforehand. They also don’t need to provide any real proof for their reasons unless you file a lawsuit, there are plenty of stories of companies getting wind of possible unionism and they fire groups of people for being late occasionally or the location was underperforming when really it wasn’t.

        • Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
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          4 months ago

          I think you might be confusing at will and right to work.

          At will has been the basic format of employment for the 20th century. It in its most basic form said that the possible employer relationship can be severed by either party at any time. When this is coupled with both protected classes and unions seem to work okay to protect the worker. It is the system of employment seen during the post WWII boom. It is not without its flaws, but seems to work okay.

          Right to work is a classic case of misnaming to confuse voters, because everyone likes the idea of having the idea of having the “right to work” but all it really is a way to reduce union power. In a right to work state, workers cannot be compelled to join a union even if they are working at a union shop. In the short run this seems great to any individual worker. They are getting union pay without the dues. But overtime removes the protections that come with unions too by reducing the power of a union strike.

          Workers are much better off in an at will state than a right to work state.

          Edit in right to work states you can still be fired without cause.

  • aleph@lemm.eeEnglish
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    4 months ago

    “At-will employment for me but not for thee”, eh? Very cheeky.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Normal for some companies to enact policies that are batshit crazy? Yes.

    Legal? Not a chance in hell.