Is it even real ?
I truly believe it is plausible because I worked somewhere that tried crap like that frequently.
Someone posted a scathing review on Glassdoor and one of the owners responded by threatening to kill himself if they didn’t take the post down. Not, like in an email, no as a post. And gave his name and phone number.
The person that posted the review should have taken the owner up on that.
Omg that’s horrible
Yeah, where did this actually come from? So far, nothing has been said to that effect
No, this both uncommon and illegal (assuming it’s from the US). They’re trying to couch their wage theft in legal jargon to scare the unwitting into accepting it
I don’t think it holds up in court even if you sign it. It’s why contracts usually have clauses that if part of it is found void the whole contract is not void. You can’t do something illegal because you made someone sign a contract for it.
You don’t have to ask us. Contact your state’s attorney general and/or workforce commission directly. They’ll know.
FYI: All the Simple Mobile Tools apps were sold to a really scummy company. The good news is the open source community forked them and they are now known as Fossify.
It’s always something. Thanks for the heads up, I’ll check that out.
If you are in the US, that’s likely very illegal. Wherever you are, talk to your state, Providence, federal, etc. labor board.
Normal? Yeah. Too common. Wage theft is the most common type of theft.
Legal? No.
Pretty sure that’s illegal.
No. That sounds like wage theft. If my boss pulled something like that I’d be on the phone with my state’s department of labor so freakin’ fast. If you worked the hours they have to pay you for it.
Even if it weren’t illegal, it’d be a big flashing neon sign saying, “We will screw you over every chance we get, and you will be nothing but miserable working here.”
Security deposit had me reeling. This was written by a moron trying to form legal words and failing
the Employer version of SovCit language
Refer to your boss in all capitals to indicate interaction with their corporate entity, not the person
Throw in blue wax and a silver coin 😁
lol I’d seen the silver coins settle all debt bullshit, what’s up with the wax?
genuinely afraid of what lists I’ll end up on when I start searching for sovcit shit
Like in this post: https://lemmy.world/post/12782844
One of the ways they pretend to be official 🙄
TY!
Labor board. Especially if this has been provided in writing.
Ohhh, I wish this was real and WAS in writing. The damages would be insane
Definetly not legal where I live (Europe).
It’s not legal anywhere in the US either. Yet.
My gut reaction is to say “that’s blatantly illegal”, but maybe local law is different… I’m pretty sure it’s not legal in the US at the very least though
Okay so first off if this a job you are thinking about taking just don’t. Legal or not I have never had a job do anything like this or anything close. At the very best they are looking to screw you, at worst they are stealing.
As for if this is legal (nal) my understanding is that for no reason can a company in the US dock, fine or in any other way deny you wages for any work already performed. It doesn’t matter if you did the work you need to be paid at the agreed rate. They can come up to you and just say that from this point forward the pay will be different, but only for future work.
The one exception to this that I am aware of is if you sign an agreement with them that lets them do this. Such as fines for lost uniforms. Often this will end up in a legal grey area though very few good businesses will do this.
TLDR business have to pay you for time worked. Crash the company truck they can fire you, but that last check has to be in full.
Businesses can tell you from this point onward your wage will lower in the US?
That can’t be legal can it? That’s a one sided change of contract.
The vast majority of employment is not under contract. That is why employment can be severed by either party at any time. So an employer could change a wage on an employee but there is nothing saying the employee has to accept it.
Not under contract? What does that mean? Do people just walk in and work there whenever?
No there is an employment agreement, but not a contract. So the employee and employer both agree to the terms of the work. This is just no requirement for the agreement to continue if either party wants to sever the agreement.
We don’t get employment contracts anymore, ever since every state passed “at will” employment laws. Companies can drop you at any time for any reason that isn’t one of a very small list ( racial discrimination, union retaliation, etc) with no notice to you beforehand. They also don’t need to provide any real proof for their reasons unless you file a lawsuit, there are plenty of stories of companies getting wind of possible unionism and they fire groups of people for being late occasionally or the location was underperforming when really it wasn’t.
I think you might be confusing at will and right to work.
At will has been the basic format of employment for the 20th century. It in its most basic form said that the possible employer relationship can be severed by either party at any time. When this is coupled with both protected classes and unions seem to work okay to protect the worker. It is the system of employment seen during the post WWII boom. It is not without its flaws, but seems to work okay.
Right to work is a classic case of misnaming to confuse voters, because everyone likes the idea of having the idea of having the “right to work” but all it really is a way to reduce union power. In a right to work state, workers cannot be compelled to join a union even if they are working at a union shop. In the short run this seems great to any individual worker. They are getting union pay without the dues. But overtime removes the protections that come with unions too by reducing the power of a union strike.
Workers are much better off in an at will state than a right to work state.
Edit in right to work states you can still be fired without cause.
“At-will employment for me but not for thee”, eh? Very cheeky.
Normal for some companies to enact policies that are batshit crazy? Yes.
Legal? Not a chance in hell.
Nope, that’s illegal.