After a pause, the judge finally agrees to the order that the defenders asked for. Novolodsky speaks first. He immediately assures the judge: “You were wrong to trust the prosecutorial authorities.”
Novolodsky’s speech is based on metaphor. The accusation is a stool, and its legs are evidence. “The prosecution stood on four legs: Skochilenko’s testimony, [linguistic] examination, Nikolaev’s testimony and the testimony of military personnel.” The lawyer lists: Nikolaev recanted his testimony in court, Skochilenko admitted only the fact of distributing price tags, and the military personnel do not show the subjective side of the crime. As for the examination, he considers it unprofessional due to the education of the specialists, truncated formulations and attempts to establish motives. The latter, as Novolodsky assures, should be dealt with by investigators.
As the defense insists, Skochilenko’s motive was not political enmity or hatred. Lawyers do not find hatred in the request to stop the fighting.
Novolodsky states: the same call is now heard “on all continents and at all international summits”; are all these thousands of politicians also criminals?
Neither the prosecutor nor the judge looks at the lawyer. The prosecutor types something on the phone, Demyasheva makes notes by hand. She looks up just a few times. The first is to clarify what equipment is on a tripod in the hall and whether any of the listeners are filming prohibited by the court. The second is when Novolodsky asks her to look at the same price tag about military operations: “Would you like to look, your honor?”
Novolodsky’s speech also contains statements that were unexpected for the defense: about his personal sympathy for the pensioner who complained to the police about the price tags, about fake news in the foreign media, and the fact that Skochilenko herself “may be a victim of an information war.”
“We’re not at the circus”
One of Nepovinnova’s main thoughts is about the absence of the subjective side of crime. The lawyer insists that the prosecution simply “copied” the law and did not analyze the evidence of the defense, the testimony of experts and the artist herself. For the same “price tags,” as Nepovinnova reminds, in other cities they were tried under an administrative article.
Another defense argument is that Skochilenko did not consider the information disseminated to be deliberately false. As evidence, the lawyer cites the artist’s sympathetic messages to her Ukrainian friends. These correspondences were added to the case by the prosecution as evidence of Skochilenko’s guilt.
Nepovinnova ends her speech with a quote from Skochilenko about the humanity test: “You have a chance to pass it.” Some of the spectators begin to applaud. The judge raises his voice: “Those who clapped, leave the hall! We’re not at the circus." The order remains without response. Demyasheva demands that everyone be removed and leaves herself - to the conference room.
Policemen and bailiffs enter the hall, about ten people in total.
Novolodsky uses the pause for an impromptu lecture on history.
“In the Russian Empire, when good lawyers spoke, you could clap,” he says calmly.
Instead of the audience, the prosecutor leaves the hall.
“Alexander Yuryevich, you didn’t clap,” they laugh from the audience. The prosecutor doesn’t pay attention. During the days of the meetings, he had to listen to many offensive words: any passage of Gladyshev along the corridor is accompanied by shouts.
The bailiffs ask either those who clapped or all the listeners to leave the hall at once. They threaten with force, but in the end they don’t take anyone out. After arguments, six people leave, but the judge is not happy with this: the hearing is postponed to November 14.
The debate, despite fears, continues in the open. Defender Margarita Kislyakova begins with Skochilenko’s personality characteristics: she led an active social life, worked in journalism, was involved in charity work, and in 2014 she drew a comic book about depression, which was then used by psychiatrists in their work.
Each of the “price tags,” according to Kislyakova, could be considered truthful by the OSCE mission. However, even its representatives agree that many facts can neither be confirmed nor refuted.
“It’s very painful to watch how a young girl is behind bars for a long time, but with a large number of chronic diseases,” lawyer Dmitry Gerasimov continues the debate. He says the same thing: the information on the price tags was not deliberately false for his client.
Skochilenko herself speaks last in the debate. She says she does not admit guilt in disseminating deliberately false information: “I am deeply convinced that I acted in order to protect the interests of the Russian Federation and its citizens, as well as in order to maintain international peace and security, but I am afraid that I understand the article differently "
After a pause, the judge finally agrees to the order that the defenders asked for. Novolodsky speaks first. He immediately assures the judge: “You were wrong to trust the prosecutorial authorities.”
Novolodsky’s speech is based on metaphor. The accusation is a stool, and its legs are evidence. “The prosecution stood on four legs: Skochilenko’s testimony, [linguistic] examination, Nikolaev’s testimony and the testimony of military personnel.” The lawyer lists: Nikolaev recanted his testimony in court, Skochilenko admitted only the fact of distributing price tags, and the military personnel do not show the subjective side of the crime. As for the examination, he considers it unprofessional due to the education of the specialists, truncated formulations and attempts to establish motives. The latter, as Novolodsky assures, should be dealt with by investigators.
As the defense insists, Skochilenko’s motive was not political enmity or hatred. Lawyers do not find hatred in the request to stop the fighting.
Novolodsky states: the same call is now heard “on all continents and at all international summits”; are all these thousands of politicians also criminals?
Neither the prosecutor nor the judge looks at the lawyer. The prosecutor types something on the phone, Demyasheva makes notes by hand. She looks up just a few times. The first is to clarify what equipment is on a tripod in the hall and whether any of the listeners are filming prohibited by the court. The second is when Novolodsky asks her to look at the same price tag about military operations: “Would you like to look, your honor?”
Novolodsky’s speech also contains statements that were unexpected for the defense: about his personal sympathy for the pensioner who complained to the police about the price tags, about fake news in the foreign media, and the fact that Skochilenko herself “may be a victim of an information war.” “We’re not at the circus”
One of Nepovinnova’s main thoughts is about the absence of the subjective side of crime. The lawyer insists that the prosecution simply “copied” the law and did not analyze the evidence of the defense, the testimony of experts and the artist herself. For the same “price tags,” as Nepovinnova reminds, in other cities they were tried under an administrative article.
Another defense argument is that Skochilenko did not consider the information disseminated to be deliberately false. As evidence, the lawyer cites the artist’s sympathetic messages to her Ukrainian friends. These correspondences were added to the case by the prosecution as evidence of Skochilenko’s guilt.
Nepovinnova ends her speech with a quote from Skochilenko about the humanity test: “You have a chance to pass it.” Some of the spectators begin to applaud. The judge raises his voice: “Those who clapped, leave the hall! We’re not at the circus." The order remains without response. Demyasheva demands that everyone be removed and leaves herself - to the conference room.
Policemen and bailiffs enter the hall, about ten people in total.
Novolodsky uses the pause for an impromptu lecture on history.
“In the Russian Empire, when good lawyers spoke, you could clap,” he says calmly.
Instead of the audience, the prosecutor leaves the hall.
“Alexander Yuryevich, you didn’t clap,” they laugh from the audience. The prosecutor doesn’t pay attention. During the days of the meetings, he had to listen to many offensive words: any passage of Gladyshev along the corridor is accompanied by shouts.
The bailiffs ask either those who clapped or all the listeners to leave the hall at once. They threaten with force, but in the end they don’t take anyone out. After arguments, six people leave, but the judge is not happy with this: the hearing is postponed to November 14.
“I feel sorry for any soldiers”
The debate, despite fears, continues in the open. Defender Margarita Kislyakova begins with Skochilenko’s personality characteristics: she led an active social life, worked in journalism, was involved in charity work, and in 2014 she drew a comic book about depression, which was then used by psychiatrists in their work.
Each of the “price tags,” according to Kislyakova, could be considered truthful by the OSCE mission. However, even its representatives agree that many facts can neither be confirmed nor refuted.
“It’s very painful to watch how a young girl is behind bars for a long time, but with a large number of chronic diseases,” lawyer Dmitry Gerasimov continues the debate. He says the same thing: the information on the price tags was not deliberately false for his client.
Skochilenko herself speaks last in the debate. She says she does not admit guilt in disseminating deliberately false information: “I am deeply convinced that I acted in order to protect the interests of the Russian Federation and its citizens, as well as in order to maintain international peace and security, but I am afraid that I understand the article differently "