It’s not that it’s an unpopular opinion, it’s just that none of you carless society people can offer a viable solution that isn’t just " take public transport" or even once acknowledge that people live in rurual areas where having a personal vehicle is a requirement of life. You lot talk about how “cars don’t give you freedom”, well you tell that to people with disabilities that make it hard for them to walk long distances and tell me if they would feel free in a carless society where they had to rely on public transport just to do a simple thing like go to their doctors appointments.
I would love to not have to hear and see cars driving around all day, but untill we can come up with some viable option that gives people the freedom to go where they want without the inconvenience of the car centric city designs, it’s not something we should be doing yet, we are going to leave a lot of people behind and forgotten about.
People so rarely think of the disabled. Sure, most modern buses can “kneel” to let someone with a wheelchair on or off, but that doesn’t exactly make public transit disability friendly. For one thing, odds are that person has to wheels themselves pretty damn far to get to and from the bus stop. There is also generally one spot that a wheelchair will fit in and one spot only. There are also usually only two seats for the disabled/elderly and the disabled not infrequently get harassed for using those seats if they don’t look disabled enough for other people’s liking.
For another, there are many different types of disability. Having an elevator or kneeling bus doesn’t solve every disabled person’s problems with access. And what about the immunocompromised? Public transit is one of the most dangerous things you can engage in as someone susceptible to infection.
There will always be a need for personal modes of transportation of some kind. Public transportation is wonderful and I am a huge proponent of it, but it is not the be-all and end-all solution that people like to pretend it is.
Yeah these carless people shit me because they’re all fit and healthy people who live in cities, I have never once seen any of them mention anything that would positively help people with disabilities or the elderly, it’s all about them and it’s selfish, I wholeheartedly agree that car centric infrastructure design is an eyesore and we could probably do better, but like I said in My original comment, I’m yet to see them offer a viable solution that doesn’t exclude a sizeable chunk of the society.
My mum is in and out of hospital and doctors appointments and her ability to get herself there is a big part of her recovery, her independence is what gives her strength and keeps her mental health at a good level all considering, so yeah come up with something viable that isn’t just use public transport and maybe we will start to listen, but don’t call us assholes or lazy because you hate cars.
It’s not that it’s an unpopular opinion, it’s just that none of you carless society people can offer a viable solution that isn’t just " take public transport" or even once acknowledge that people live in rurual areas where having a personal vehicle is a requirement of life. You lot talk about how “cars don’t give you freedom”, well you tell that to people with disabilities that make it hard for them to walk long distances and tell me if they would feel free in a carless society where they had to rely on public transport just to do a simple thing like go to their doctors appointments.
I would love to not have to hear and see cars driving around all day, but untill we can come up with some viable option that gives people the freedom to go where they want without the inconvenience of the car centric city designs, it’s not something we should be doing yet, we are going to leave a lot of people behind and forgotten about.
Thank you!
People so rarely think of the disabled. Sure, most modern buses can “kneel” to let someone with a wheelchair on or off, but that doesn’t exactly make public transit disability friendly. For one thing, odds are that person has to wheels themselves pretty damn far to get to and from the bus stop. There is also generally one spot that a wheelchair will fit in and one spot only. There are also usually only two seats for the disabled/elderly and the disabled not infrequently get harassed for using those seats if they don’t look disabled enough for other people’s liking.
For another, there are many different types of disability. Having an elevator or kneeling bus doesn’t solve every disabled person’s problems with access. And what about the immunocompromised? Public transit is one of the most dangerous things you can engage in as someone susceptible to infection.
There will always be a need for personal modes of transportation of some kind. Public transportation is wonderful and I am a huge proponent of it, but it is not the be-all and end-all solution that people like to pretend it is.
Yeah these carless people shit me because they’re all fit and healthy people who live in cities, I have never once seen any of them mention anything that would positively help people with disabilities or the elderly, it’s all about them and it’s selfish, I wholeheartedly agree that car centric infrastructure design is an eyesore and we could probably do better, but like I said in My original comment, I’m yet to see them offer a viable solution that doesn’t exclude a sizeable chunk of the society.
My mum is in and out of hospital and doctors appointments and her ability to get herself there is a big part of her recovery, her independence is what gives her strength and keeps her mental health at a good level all considering, so yeah come up with something viable that isn’t just use public transport and maybe we will start to listen, but don’t call us assholes or lazy because you hate cars.