• S_204@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    How does the American president develop a plan when one side is refusing to even say if the hostages are alive and acknowledge the existence of the other party?

    It’s so weird that people act like Hamas/Palestinians aren’t required to be a part of the process… when they’re the ones who have turned down the deals Egypt and Qatar have brokered.

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      7 months ago

      Right. The principal parties of such negotiations are the Israeli- and the Palestinian Government, with Hamas in the mix, because they control the Gaza Strip.

      Anyone outside those groups can make suggestions, demands, etc., but there are limited means for them to influence such negotiations. The US government can threaten to withhold support (at the risk of being labeled antisemitic or at least anti Israel), but I wouldn’t bet my bottom dollar that it would make a difference in this climate.

      I did not mean imply that Biden and his government can make a plan, and expect it to be followed. However, I feel that for his own benefit, Biden has to make a public display of making stronger demands for a resolution of this problem. It may not fix things in the Middle East in the short term, but it will demonstrate that he cares, and that the USA cares.

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        That’s fair, I would probably agree with most of how you have reframed that. I think the qataris have an outside influence and obviously Iran’s input would mean something.

        I think Biden bringing Gantz over for a chat is about as big of a threat to Bibi as you’re going to see though. That’s notable on many levels.

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        Israel won’t negotiate until they get a list of names of living hostages. That’s what’s being negotiated, Hamas won’t provide it. Blaming Israel because Hamas won’t come to the table in any reasonable way is ridiculous.

        The Qatar’s have threatened to boot Hamas if they don’t start negotiating in good faith is the news coming out lately. Blaming Israel for not negotiating over nothing is just stupid.

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          Israel cannot get a list of names until they stop bombing the place and shooting everyone.

          How is Hamas meant to go out and find out who’s even survived Israeli bombings if they get killed? Even ambulances with Israeli permission to rescue young children aren’t even safe to travel the streets.

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            Are you serious? That’s about as retarded of a position as possible in these circumstances LMFAO.

            A one sided ceasefire so they can get their information? They’ve never once in this entire conflict provided proof of life, other than some undated videos of hostages to use as threats. They’re not giving it because once they admit they’ve killed them, they know they’re done for.

            This appears to be a red line for Qatar too, with the news coming out that Hamas leadership is being threatened with exile over their lack of negotiations in good faith. But it’s always Israel at fault, not the people holding the hostages… the fucking insanity would be comical if people weren’t dying because of Hamas.