• Burninator05@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    But they Republicans can’t do whatever they want. How many times did they attempt (and fail) at getting rid of the ACA? Even when they had the presidency and both houses of Congress they weren’t able to do that.

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        6 months ago

        That’s a funny way of spelling “Oh shit you’re right, Republicans famously tried and failed to among other things withhold aid from Ukraine, repeal the ACA, prosecute their political opponents, have the military confiscate voting machines, have the National Guard shoot protestors, and lots of other terrifying things, but the top levels of government don’t come with a magic wand that causes all the other levels to obey exactly the orders that come from above. And that’s actually a good thing; you want to have a lot of apolitical machinery in the workings of government, not just an autocracy that immediately obeys any new orders that come from above whether good or bad or whether they fit the preexisting structures or not.”

        “However, the Republicans do have a detailed plan in place for undoing a lot of that machinery that’s truly terrifying in its scope and thoroughness. If you’re not happy about Joe Biden failing to do enough to take the unprecedented step of legalizing marijuana on a federal level, just wait until CBP agents are empowered to fire on protestors or detain them indefinitely, opposition-party politicians are on the receiving end of harassment from a corrupted justice department, and the power of the US military can be turned against any brown people anywhere in the world for any reason whatsoever on the whim of the world’s most childish man, with no pushback from senior military leadership.”

        “Oops I mean both sides are the same, Joe didn’t do a good enough job on my lengthy to-do list of progressive goals, I’m not voting, it doesn’t matter.”

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          6 months ago

          As long as you’re better than the republicans, who cares right? This is the sum of decades of lesser of 2 evils voting.

          Enabling a genocide, record oil production, twice the number of migrants detained at the border than when trump left office.

          Demand better.

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            6 months ago

            This is the point in the circle of bad-faith arguments where, the marijuana thing clearly being bullshit, we segueway into a series of unrelated talking-point arguments instead of staying on the sinking ship that was the OP argument.

            Do you want me to copy-paste a detailed counterargument for each of your first two points, to respond to the “short quippy wrong” talking-point version? If you want to change the subject. The last one I don’t have something already prepared but the first two I’ve seen verbatim enough times that I can easily go back and grab a good response for them.