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John Barnett had worked for Boeing for 32 years, until his retirement in 2017.
In the days before his death, he had been giving evidence in a whistleblower lawsuit against the company.
Boeing said it was saddened to hear of Mr Barnett’s passing. The Charleston County coroner confirmed his death to the BBC on Monday.
It said the 62-year-old had died from a “self-inflicted” wound on 9 March and police were investigating.
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Guess the executives didn’t want to wait for him to take one of their planes and die naturally by getting sucked out at 35,000 feet when a door falls off.
Well, that’s not typical, if like to point that out.
I absolutely love that bit!
Which bit- the front? Because I’m sorry to say it fell off
Thankfully, not into the environment.
So, the guy was expected to appear in court for thw second round of questioning and when he didn’t show up was found dead in his truck in the underground car park of the hotel. Doesn’t sound like someone that wanted to end it. Maybe I’m wrong but I wouldn’t book a room to go to court and then on a whim decide to end it.
They should investigate the coroner asap.
Sounds like Jeffrey Epsteins coroner.
Most people that kill themselves do so on a whim. Its probably not the case, but its not impossible. I’m guessing either the coroner is corrupt, or they have actual evidence it was a suicide. If it was a murder, then I doubt Boeing would do it without assurance it couldn’t be traced back to them. So regardless of what actually happened, the only official story there will ever be is that it was a suicide. That is, unless Boeing is as reckless about murder as they are about building planes.
Most people that kill themselves do so on a whim.
[Citation required]
I would argue that most likely than not there is a trail of depression and/or mental illness that leads up to the actual act being done.
Absolutely, I don’t mean there is no warning whatsoever. There is almost always a history of depression, but that history is not always visible to loved ones, let alone the public. I just mean they are likely not specifically planning to commit suicide until soon before they do it, which at least in my experience is true
Yeah it could emerge apparently at random for unsuspecting familiars, but this guy was about to do something that was important for him, on which he worked for years according to the article. Sounds sus to me.
Most people who commit suicide actually plan to do it. There is plenty of warning beforehand.
If it’s Boeing, I’m NOT going.
What a terrible coincidence
A terrible coincidence, indeed.
How tall was the self inflicting wound fall? There aren’t a lot of tall buildings near Everett.
Maybe it was 3 bullets to the back? He was probably an engineer. Engineers can figure out how to purposely shoot themselves in the back more than 1 time with the same or multiple guns. Some plywood, rope or string, glue gun, and miscellaneous items, that’s all you need really…and a gun with bullets. Let’s start a project “automated self immolation chair”. I’m going to set-up a weekly meeting with you all until a prototype rev A is complete. We’ll start this morning with a 4 hour DFMEA followed by a three hour brainstorming session. We’ll need a business plan if we want approval for resources. I’ve just discussed the objective with my boss. She said no, and to take the trash out. And wash the dishes. It was an abrupt end of project but we learned valuable lessons. I’ll have a report out before Friday 5pm. We’ll be going out for drinks if you want to discuss details. Ah yes! Another successful project completion!
Completely on point. I am an engineer. If I were to self inflict gunshots, I would 100% design a contraption that would shooot multiple times. Need to make sure.
Also need to hide this contraption while I am in the dying process. To make sure people know it was self inflicted.
Let’s start a project “automated self immolation chair”
that’s just called the electric chair, is it not? Just press the button yourself
Well, I mean, it doesn’t have to be electric. We need to discuss the IP in this here electrical seating device you mentioned wherein they have incorporated a single button function for electrically terminating life function. There may be room for a continuation design patent where dismemberment, disembowelment and other dis-x-ments can also be actuated via a single throw single contact latching button. With proper denouncing circuits and or algorithms, we can be sure to only de-live once per period. Anvils are single de-living event devices for example.
Seems legit.
It said the 62-year-old had died from a “self-inflicted” wound on 9 March and police were investigating.
Ah yes the classic suicide by shot to the back.
Nothing to see here, citizen. Move along, and consoom Boeing.
What are us plebs going to do, boycott Boeing and buy our personal jets someplace else? I think I’m going to protest by never buying a 747. Get wrecked Boeing.
I know this is a joke but you can’t buy a new 747 from Boeing even if you wanted to. Boeing stopped taking orders for the 747 in 2020 and the last plane rolled off the production line in 2022.
That’s why he’s never buying one again. He’s buying 737 MAXes now
The first thing about that plane is it has plenty of ventilation
That’s what makes it Covid-safe.
It’s like the old biplanes, the key is to fly to a max altitude of 75 ft. Going higher is just frivolous anyway.
Check your flight and plane model before clicking “book”.
Kayak lets you filter by aircraft when searching too
It was a gunshot wound to the head. Its plausible the wound was self inflicted, although its pretty clear Boeing probably did it. They are evil, not stupid.
I’m certainly suspicious, but if you’re basing that “probably” on the information provided in this article…well your critical thinking skill leave a lot to be desired.
I think a “probably” is pretty reasonable considering the circumstances. Its a lot less certainty than I’m seeing in the rest of these comments.
I think a “probably” is pretty reasonable considering the circumstances.
No, it’s not. It’s based on nothing but suspicion. Unless I’m missing something, there is nothing that indicates that this was even a murder, let alone anything linking that murder to Boeing. It’s just blind speculation. It’s the same shit I deal with constantly with Trump supporters, where their suspicions about the 2016 are more important than actually having the facts to back it up.
At this moment we have no motive for suicide and motive for murder.
But we have actual evidence for suicide (coroner report) and none for murder. But sure your ignorance of what’s going on in his life trumps actual facts.
What if the dude was so stressed out by all of this he just said fuck it, I’m done, and blew his brains out?
I’m not saying I think this is true any more than I think Boeing had him killed. Just providing it as a plausible motive for suicide to show that we really need more information to be revealed from a proper investigation before we attach ourselves to assumptions.
I know its speculation, that’s why I’m using the word probably. There is a rock solid motive, but no hard evidence. Which is why I’m not going to outright claim they did it. Maybe your definition of probably is different than mine, but to me, it means there is a very real possibility that I’m wrong.
I know its speculation, that’s why I’m using the word probably.
Blind speculation. You have nothing to support the claim. You’re just suspicious about it. There is no “probably” here, it just a possibility.
Maybe your definition of probably is different than mine, but to me, it means there is a very real possibility that I’m wrong.
Probably means more likely than not. You have precisely zero to back up your claim. The evidence suggests that Trump probably (i.e. more likely than not) raped Jean Carroll, which is why a jury found him liable for it. If you brought the evidence you have right now that Boeing killed this guy for a civil claim, you would be laughed out of court.
There is no “probably” here, it just a possibility.
Its a possibility that seems very likely, that’s what I mean by probably.
If you brought the evidence you have right now that Boeing killed this guy for a civil claim, you would be laughed out of court.
That’s very interesting, however, I am not in court.
One thing I learned from NCIS: “investigate suicides as if they were murders”.
Dunno if it was one of the Rules, tho.
The day before his testimony. He was 100% assassinated. Too bad Boeing is such a major company. This would have FBI agents crawling all over it if it wasn’t a company that can afford to buy every politician in DC.
Idk the DOJ opened a criminal investigation against them but that could just be theater. 100% this man was murdered though dude, no doubt about it. When I read that whole “our thoughts are with his friends and family” I got a chill man that’s so evil.
To be fair, they would’ve said that regardless. Its standard corporate speak.
True, but I get the point. Like it’s hard for those of us with souls to comprehend the sheer evil it takes to murder or coerce-to-murder someone’s father/husband/brother/friend, and then tell them through your teeth “That’s so unfortunate this thing happened to them. Thoughts and prayers.”
We are in the era of corporate aristocracy. They are considered people, have vast wealth to manipulate and avoid the law, and when they ARE caught acting horrifically, the government just sighs and says "Well we can’t stop having products so I guess it really was suicide lol’
And us normal peasants just have to suck it up.
Time to storm the fucking castle.
If this was a Trump administration with Sessions or Barr, nothing would be done. I actually do think Garland’s DOJ cares about such corruption, so I’m hopeful this will at least be looked into.
They could still be crawling over it, hopefully
Yeah I guess they have no reason to divulge active investigations to the public, but yeah, obviously the optics on this are super fucked.
Yesterday I’ve read a joke about something like that exactly about audits and proceedings connected to Boeing’s recent accidents.
I thought this is satire first.
Extremely sketchy.
I have no problem with killing the ruling class because of events like these. They just get away with too much for too long.
Removed by the admins but lives forever in our hearts. I bet even they know you’re right, but you know how comments like those tend to go.
It’s time to pop them piñatas.
^gets it
To the people saying Boeing killed him, sorta, but not really.
I’ve known people who have had tried to unionize in multiple industries and all of their health went to shit. Beyond the constant threat of a billion dollar organization breathing down your neck and threatening litigation for the remainder of your twilight years.
Think about how often the people around you have wanted to end their life, or hell even you yourself. Now couple that with all the above.
Just because people are noble doesn’t mean they aren’t anymore human that you or me.
Nobody went in and murdered Epstein. He had plenty of reason to do it himself as a known pedophile for the richest in a penal system that doesn’t exactly look fondly on chomos.
Either way, needlessly speculating is fun. Just don’t let yourselves fall into these dumbass conspiracies like every right-wing fascist chud has for the last decade or more. Reality is rarely as exciting as headlines, movies, or the internet likes it to be.
obviously Epstein killed himself to protect the secret technique of disabling security cameras and putting guards to sleep with his mind
Even if Epstein killed himself they definitely knew he was suicidal and looked the other way while he did it. Idk about this guy but it’s suspicious but I agree more information needs to come out before going too far into any rabbit holes. Sorry for your mass downvotes lol looks like some people are already sucked in. 😅
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. What you’re describing kind of happened to Aaron Schwartz RIP.
They should really make some sort of incentive to keep these people alive. Like if a whistle blower dies before the verdict of the trial/hearing make it an automatic assumption and multiply the punishment by 3 times (Treble!). Then you would have companies doing everything to not have whistle blowers die, not what we have today.
Or, short of that… If you’re whistleblowing on Boeing, you should go to Airbus and Lockheed and tell them, “it’s in your best interest that I stay breathing”.
It’s absolutely not. They don’t want whistleblowers.
Do not underestimate the level of solidarity rich people will display against anyone who challenges them.
Your competitors take out contract hits against your whistleblower and you need to have bodyguards to protect them.
And then your head of security and the whistleblower fall in love until at the end of the movie the competitor assassin gets into the court waiting room and the head of security throws themselves into the ninja star’s way and dies in the whistleblower’s arms as the ultimate sacrifice is made for love and corporate profits.
I tear up just thinking about it.
Bravo. Hope you make Hollywood kid, you got the vision we need.
The current vision in Hollywood is sequels, reboots and milking any IP for all its worth.
Don’t underestimate the franchise potential of The Whistleblower Bodyguard 4: Furious at Fast Food.
“They didn’t salt the god damned fries AGAIN!?”
organizes heist
I see this as an absolute win. Also kinda liking the idea of big companies spending money in a spy vs spy sort of thing.
They do have an disincentive, its called decades in jail if its discovered you kill him.
Step 1: Short company stocks Step 2: kill witness against the company Step 3: profit.
Just one example of that being a terrible idea
There should be presumption of guilt in this case.
What?? No that’s ridiculous. People do kill themselves sometimes.
Then they’d be interested to hire him all kinds of councilors and security guards so that he doesn’t kill himself.
What? And break into his home so he can’t?
That’ll cost them less money and years of not seeing daylight, so why not.
Because don’t you think that in itself is a form of witness intimidation? Won’t people be hesitant to volunteer to testify during a lengthy trial if it means a security guard literally watching them sleep and shower for months.
Exactly this. In a fucked up way a rule like that would actually incentivise whistleblowers to become martyrs.
This is “falling out of a window or down an elevator shaft in Russia”-level blatant.
This appears very loud and clear to any other potential whistle-blowers.
You forgot blown-up plane. For Boeing it is super easy.
Yes, a prominent manufacturer is likely to publicly destroy their product to target one person, rather than simply have their lawyers and accountants make life as difficult as possible for this person.
They seem to be just fine publicly destroying their products for better stock prices.
he commited suicide in a russian fashion
Also found this article with more details but wtf is this website? I’ve never heard of it? Sketchy? Legit? I have no clue.
That site also has a 2019 interview with John Barnett. The site is named and the interview is quoted in today’s Daily Mail article on the whistleblower’s suspicious death.
So, corporate crime reporter appears legit; the whistleblower spoke with them in 2019, and his lawyer did write to them with details.
