Hindenburg did that because the Nazi party won what was essentially Congress with the most seats, just like how the Republicans are going to control Congress at some point in the next two years and currently control all your courts and have manipulated every state and local district. The US is a crisis away from an anti democratic takeover regardless of who wins in November.
Nazis don’t care about democracy and will come to power if the material conditions exist for them to come to power regardless of your elections.
I was contending “Nazis lost the election to Hindenburg … and came to power anyway in 1933 regardless.” Hitler didn’t come to power for some amorphous reasons, but specific decisions by people in power. I agree that material conditions are important, but it’s so vague here that it’s meaningless and can be shifted at any point in this discussion to support your position.
The Nazis agitated support on multiple fronts including electoral politics. Hindenburg surrounded himself with other military conservative and as conditions in the streets continued to worse economically and support swung to the nsdap, they urged him to give support to Hitler. However, the Nazis had won a plurality of the vote in every Reitsrat election starting in 1930.
Electoral politics alone isn’t the answer. Never was. Garnering support on the ground is difficult work.
This is literally my point. Never told anyone not to vote for biden but unless you start arming yourselves to the teeth and resisting in real ways the Trump train is coming for you no matter what
It isn’t vague and there are a lot of similarities
The Nazis agitated support on multiple fronts including electoral politics.
This is true for MAGA and the republicans. They are raising militias. They have taken over all the courts and churches.
Hindenburg surrounded himself with other military conservative and as conditions in the streets continued to worse economically
Look at the democratic party and people like Manchin in the party and Sinema who was an infiltrator. The democrats are pro funding wars around the world and Israel. The Overton window is so far right in the US that you can’t even recognize that they are a right wing fascist party themselves. Fascism is when capital controls the state.
they urged him to give support to Hitler.
The US is one crisis away from this and having a weak octogenarian hand over power to a fascist. Maybe in his own party, Maybe a republican, it doesn’t matter. The US is a terminally corrupt state.
Your initial presentation was vague. I agree that it could be made clear, but your initial posts just hinted at it.
There are some similarities and a some important differences. If you don’t acknowledge the differences. I think you haphazardly write responses with half remembered idiomatic expressions, sensationalism, and simplistic thinking.
With that said, you land in positions I might agree with. But you do a disservice to leftists. Do better.
Hindenburg did that because the Nazi party won what was essentially Congress with the most seats, just like how the Republicans are going to control Congress at some point in the next two years and currently control all your courts and have manipulated every state and local district. The US is a crisis away from an anti democratic takeover regardless of who wins in November.
Nazis don’t care about democracy and will come to power if the material conditions exist for them to come to power regardless of your elections.
Good call naming that disasterous blimp after him, eh?
I was contending “Nazis lost the election to Hindenburg … and came to power anyway in 1933 regardless.” Hitler didn’t come to power for some amorphous reasons, but specific decisions by people in power. I agree that material conditions are important, but it’s so vague here that it’s meaningless and can be shifted at any point in this discussion to support your position.
The Nazis agitated support on multiple fronts including electoral politics. Hindenburg surrounded himself with other military conservative and as conditions in the streets continued to worse economically and support swung to the nsdap, they urged him to give support to Hitler. However, the Nazis had won a plurality of the vote in every Reitsrat election starting in 1930.
Electoral politics alone isn’t the answer. Never was. Garnering support on the ground is difficult work.
This is literally my point. Never told anyone not to vote for biden but unless you start arming yourselves to the teeth and resisting in real ways the Trump train is coming for you no matter what
It isn’t vague and there are a lot of similarities
This is true for MAGA and the republicans. They are raising militias. They have taken over all the courts and churches.
Look at the democratic party and people like Manchin in the party and Sinema who was an infiltrator. The democrats are pro funding wars around the world and Israel. The Overton window is so far right in the US that you can’t even recognize that they are a right wing fascist party themselves. Fascism is when capital controls the state.
The US is one crisis away from this and having a weak octogenarian hand over power to a fascist. Maybe in his own party, Maybe a republican, it doesn’t matter. The US is a terminally corrupt state.
Your initial presentation was vague. I agree that it could be made clear, but your initial posts just hinted at it.
There are some similarities and a some important differences. If you don’t acknowledge the differences. I think you haphazardly write responses with half remembered idiomatic expressions, sensationalism, and simplistic thinking.
With that said, you land in positions I might agree with. But you do a disservice to leftists. Do better.
Wow fuck you with that response sorry I didn’t write you a book report asshole. Enjoy your coming fascist government loser.