Trump’s latest eyebrow-raising remarks came a day after his former VP, Mike Pence, said that he could not “in good conscience” endorse the former president in his run this year.
  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    7 months ago

    It’s not an incitement to violence. Far from it. He would never suggest that. You misunderstood him. Just like all those people on Jan 6th.

  • ynthrepic@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    “…for the auto industry” Did they just edit a clickbait ass title?

    Disdain Trump, but shitty media isn’t helping.

    • QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      [Trump] warned on Saturday that there will be a “bloodbath” for the auto industry if he doesn’t win the election this November.

      Emphasis mine. Defending Trump is the last thing I’m interested in doing, but doesn’t this context change the meaning entirely? If I didn’t know any better, I’d think some MAGA asshats floated this title to make it look to potential conservatives as though liberals can’t be trusted to define words like “insurrection” and “incitement”.

    • OpenStars@startrek.websiteEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Except consequences - and facts - do not seem to ever stick to him. He’s already been impeached, twice, after causing more “excess deaths” than all wars combined (except the Civil War - or maybe we passed that marker too? tbf not all of that is on him, though surely a lot of it is, e.g. lying about the virus being airborne). And now there’s a not insignificant chance that he will be re-elected again.

        • dariusj18@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          When Trump/pandemic is brought up I say, “It could have happened to any President, but it was definitely going to happen to Trump.”

          • Hux@lemmy.ml
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            7 months ago

            The last two dem>gop Presidential transitions followed a similar template.

            When Clinton handed off to Bush, he warned of Osama Bin Laden as priority #1–the Bush whitehouse welcomed the idea as a pretense to invade Iraq, so nothing was done and the attacks happened.

            When Obama handed off to Trump, he warned of pandemic threat and the response team which was put together to mitigate a pandemic’s spread before reaching US shores—the Trump Whitehouse did less than nothing, they actually shut down the response team and welcomed the pandemic to come (likely at Putin’s direction, I can’t imagine Trump being so selectively focused on budgeting, unless directed by his boss).

            • dariusj18@lemmy.world
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              7 months ago

              Yeah, Obama got lucky and learned a big lesson from it, tried to pass on that lesson to his successor and it fell on deaf ears. I mean really, it’s not a surprise, the contempt shown was beyond political, it was pathological.

        • OpenStars@startrek.websiteEnglish
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          7 months ago

          He also deregulated the FCC, the SEC, and trains. I dunno, I seem to recall hearing some stuff about train derailments that seem to me to be directly traceable back to those decisions…

          Also, while he is not directly responsible for Russia invading Ukraine, he likewise directed our response - e.g. “you have to do me a favor though” (which iirc is literally treasonous).

          Also, well there’s a lot of also’s.:-( Unfortunately, we may get to start working on a whole second listing:-(.

        • jkrtn@lemmy.ml
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          7 months ago

          Fuck me, I completely forgot that. He fucked up directly with coronavirus so hard, it had completely slipped my mind that he dismantled the pandemic response for no reason other than to spite Obama. He is a fractal fuckup. You can zoom in at any scale and see the same fuckups, narcissism, and corruption.

      • ringwraithfish@startrek.website
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        7 months ago

        The problem I see that doesn’t get mentioned enough is he has literally built a cult around himself. This makes it extra difficult to make him face consequences because he can easily turn himself into a martyr in his cult’s eyes, which exacerbates the problem even more.

        I think the cases brought against him already took so long because they knew they had to be air tight. Any legal wiggle room gives him more ammo to say “See, witch-hunt!”

        IMO, the best thing that could happen for America is for him to die of natural consequences. It would deflate his cult as they tried to reconcile him being the god-delivered savior of the US and him just dying suddenly of natural causes. There would likely be conspiracies, as there always are, but it may be enough to snap some of the less radicalized out of this fucking trance he has them in.

        We’ve also seen that his lackeys cannot play his game as well as he can. The hammer would fall easily on those left in his wake.

        • OpenStars@startrek.websiteEnglish
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          7 months ago

          I dunno, at this point - as always - the person most singly damaging to Trump’s brand is the man himself. His people don’t worship him so much as the ideals that he represents. They KNOW who he is, they simply do not care. And if he died, they would just move on to the next one - we thought DeSantis but similarly to Trump himself, his own shortcomings got in the way, and unlucky for him Trump did not step back + he (DeSantis) simply could not force the issue on his own.

          And unfortunately, there is a lot of truth to the idea that the Democrats suck ass. If the question is “what is 1+1=?”, the Dems answer is a million, whereas the old-school (e.g. Tea Party) Repubs answer was negative Pluto, while the Alt Right would fuck your mom and kill your dog (or maybe get them confused and vice versa). i.e. there are a lot of ways to be wrong, but they are not equally so.

          His conservative base is not nearly so “Pro-Trump” as they are “anti-libtards”. Which should worry us all, b/c McCartyism has touched this nation before, and those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it. Anyway, yeah they would move on, and yeah those others would not be supported quite as strongly, but I don’t think this would actually matter, in terms of people showing up to vote to swing an election? If anything, it could even help Repubs chances, for those middle-of-the-road voters who definitely do not want to vote for Biden yet did not want to vote for Trump, and would consider voting for a different Republican.

  • Confused_Emus@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Clickbait headline - and I know most viewers/commentators aren’t even opening that link. The quote was “bloodbath for the auto industry.” Takes it from a threat of anarchy to a simple negative assessment of the auto industry.

    There’s plenty to not like about this shitbag without getting sensationalist about it.

    • ALQ@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Not really. From the article:

      “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole—that’s going to be the least of it. It’s gonna be a bloodbath for the country,” he declared.

      While the context may have been “auto industry,” the message was clear.

      • EatATaco@lemm.eeEnglish
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        7 months ago

        While the context may have been “auto industry,” the message was clear.

        Yes, but the context is also that bloodbath doesn’t mean a literally blood bath.

        All this type of deception does is give Trump supporters an out and the ability to claim that Trump is not a threat to the country, by pointing out that this claim is a lie. Stop defending it. It’s a blatant lie, so much so that they had to change the title of the article already (the OP correctly copied what was originally posted, it now says “auto industry” instead of America).

        The dailybeast is a far left media source with questionable credibility when it comes to reporting the facts. Don’t step up to the plate to defend their blatant deception. If we want to claim that we are on the side of rationality and logic, it’s best to call out the BS from your own side when you see it.

        • steakmeoutt@sh.itjust.works
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          7 months ago

          Mate you seem desperate to find balance via a critical eye when what’s happening is your bias against a publication is showing.

        • hemmes@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          7 months ago

          I mean, he literally said blood bath for the country. Not really any other way to take that. For his supporters and fearful on-the-fencers they can think up all sorts of literal blood bath scenarios and many figurative interpretations. The Daily Beast is no high bar outlet but he did say what he said.

          • PopcornTin@lemmy.world
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            7 months ago

            Exactly. All these people listening to what he said before or after, looking at the context, are fascists. We have his one word quote. That’s all the proof I need to reinforce my existing opinion.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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        7 months ago

        He’s an old man spewing word salad. He just says shit and people interpret him like augury because none of it actually makes sense. 🙄

        • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.eeEnglish
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          7 months ago

          He’s also the front runner for the us president seat. Don’t fucking downplay this shit just because you’re uncomfortable an old man is saying crazy shit.

    • VeryVito@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      Yeah, even the linked article’s headline says auto industry. Trump sucks enough, we don’t need to make up quotes for him.

      • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        7 months ago

        “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole—that’s going to be the least of it. It’s gonna be a bloodbath for the country,” he declared.

    • Breezy@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Well its not like opening the link helps, i got a pop up that wouldnt load so thus i couldnt read what it said. Thanks for the info, still shitty.

  • logos@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    While Trump’s eyebrow-raising remarks may have invoked visions of the January 6, the ex-president was specifically making his comments in relation to car manufacturers.

    Important context.

  • Pandantic [they/them]@midwest.socialEnglish
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    7 months ago

    “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole—that’s going to be the least of it. It’s gonna be a bloodbath for the country,” he declared.

    Trump went on to reiterate that China will not be able to sell any of their vehicles in the United States if he comes out the victor this November.

  • Sylver@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Sometimes the best way to remove cancer is through surgical extraction… America is sick, and he is the largest symptom. We should probably get to the bottom of this disease after we remove this specific tumor.