I don’t care if you don’t like guns. Arm up, learn to shoot, and protect yourselves out there. One political side has been stockpiling for decades (it’s even part of their culture) while the other side is willingly disarming themselves.
I’m sorry, but I hate this argument… because it’s crock.
Attackers generally do not telegraph their intentions. They often come on suddenly and unexpectedly. I’ve been assaulted before and could not have defended myself even if I wanted to. I was caught too off-guard. Having a gun would not have helped me in any of those situations.
It’s a “I am very badass!”-solution often from folks that have never been in that vulnerable kind of position before, because if they have, they would know that it cannot be reliably executed.
The presence of a firearm itself may have been enough to make them think twice. I mean, do you normally try to assault someone who’s visibly carrying?
A gun that can be seen is a gun that can be wrestled away from you, especially if you are physically smaller or weaker than your assailant. It’s also an item of value begging to be stolen the second you’re not completely in command of your surroundings.
It’s also a good way to get shot pre-emptively by a cop who actually does have adequate gun safety training but no morality to go along with it, simply because he’s a hunter and your open carry visible weapon made you fair game. “I feared for my life” is all he will have to say, and you will just be one more statistic without ever even having drawn it, especially if you are a minority or a member of some other group they don’t like.
That kind of firearm-as-fashion-deterrent only appeals to LARPers. People who take gun ownership with the absolute seriousness it requires do not open carry casually, nor do they pull out a gun unless they are about to fire it. This is casual, ignorant, deadly irresponsibility and a big part of why we have the firearm problems we do in this country right now.
When we were living in the high desert of california our friend would meet up at mcDs to let our kids play together. we were minding our own fucking business when a white stranger who asked our white friend if he was “okay”. As in was he ok with hanging out with us asians. This was before covid, only 70miles out of DTLA.
We don’t live there anymore thank god. Many are not fortunate enough to move away from this kind of hostile environment. How in the fuck can you say that for them to get a gun to defend themselves is irrational and insane?
This is not about getting shot or not this is about marginalized people defending themselves from a society that wants them dead. Plenty of trans folks fear for their lives without one bullet being shot so your logic fails.
If they do want to arm themselves, who I am to tell them that’s irrational. I’m not trans. I don’t know what their life is like.
That’s a nice thought and all, but the reality of the situation is that conservatives would sooner chop off their own genitals than give up their guns.
These people are waiting for Trump’s signal, and then they’ll start shooting their neighbors. They dream about it, they fantasize about it. Only an absolute idiot with a suicide wish chooses to not own a gun in the current political climate America is in.
I don’t care if you don’t like guns. Arm up, learn to shoot, and protect yourselves out there. One political side has been stockpiling for decades (it’s even part of their culture) while the other side is willingly disarming themselves.
Curious how that would help here?
She got arrested for being the victim. If she shoots her attacker do you think the cops wouldn’t have still arrested her?
Unless you meant protect ourselves from the cops, but running gun battles with the cops isn’t going to help anyone.
The presence of a firearm itself may have been enough to make them think twice. I mean, do you normally try to assault someone who’s visibly carrying?
You can get arrested for threatening someone with a firearm too. It wouldn’t have helped.
Get assaulted, raped, possibly killed? Or deal with the arrest and after math of having defended yourself from such. I know which one I’d choose.
I’m sorry, but I hate this argument… because it’s crock.
Attackers generally do not telegraph their intentions. They often come on suddenly and unexpectedly. I’ve been assaulted before and could not have defended myself even if I wanted to. I was caught too off-guard. Having a gun would not have helped me in any of those situations.
It’s a “I am very badass!”-solution often from folks that have never been in that vulnerable kind of position before, because if they have, they would know that it cannot be reliably executed.
Isn’t this what gun rights people say to women who then become statistically more likely to be shot by their own weapon?
A gun that can be seen is a gun that can be wrestled away from you, especially if you are physically smaller or weaker than your assailant. It’s also an item of value begging to be stolen the second you’re not completely in command of your surroundings.
It’s also a good way to get shot pre-emptively by a cop who actually does have adequate gun safety training but no morality to go along with it, simply because he’s a hunter and your open carry visible weapon made you fair game. “I feared for my life” is all he will have to say, and you will just be one more statistic without ever even having drawn it, especially if you are a minority or a member of some other group they don’t like.
That kind of firearm-as-fashion-deterrent only appeals to LARPers. People who take gun ownership with the absolute seriousness it requires do not open carry casually, nor do they pull out a gun unless they are about to fire it. This is casual, ignorant, deadly irresponsibility and a big part of why we have the firearm problems we do in this country right now.
The majority of people likely would have a difficult time pulling the trigger even if they did brandish a gun. Possibly more so with women.
So now you have any escalated situation with a much higher chance of death for the person holding the gun.
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It’s clear the sentiment on guns is never going to change in the US. I don’t live in an ideal gun-free utopia. I live in the US that exists now.
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Or is it because internet moralists won’t join radical-in-a-good-way militias, because they think bigots will listen to words.
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They’re not wrong, though
When we were living in the high desert of california our friend would meet up at mcDs to let our kids play together. we were minding our own fucking business when a white stranger who asked our white friend if he was “okay”. As in was he ok with hanging out with us asians. This was before covid, only 70miles out of DTLA.
We don’t live there anymore thank god. Many are not fortunate enough to move away from this kind of hostile environment. How in the fuck can you say that for them to get a gun to defend themselves is irrational and insane?
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This is not about getting shot or not this is about marginalized people defending themselves from a society that wants them dead. Plenty of trans folks fear for their lives without one bullet being shot so your logic fails.
If they do want to arm themselves, who I am to tell them that’s irrational. I’m not trans. I don’t know what their life is like.
That’s a nice thought and all, but the reality of the situation is that conservatives would sooner chop off their own genitals than give up their guns.
These people are waiting for Trump’s signal, and then they’ll start shooting their neighbors. They dream about it, they fantasize about it. Only an absolute idiot with a suicide wish chooses to not own a gun in the current political climate America is in.
How about no?