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    I wonder how much support the Dems would get, if they promised to abolish the two-party-system - including some other oddities you have to endure over there. Could they even do that? It seems weird to me that there have been no reforms to fix this obviously broken system.

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    81 is too old

    my grandfather is this age and would not want him running anything and when reach that age do not think be able to run much either unless healthcare gets some futuristic improvement

    Biden is no different than any other human on the planet except they give him exponentially better healthcare than you while he dangles universal health in front of your face for two elections and never putting out

    Americans should not bend over and take either option Biden or Trump

    Some of us like myself are not allowed to vote because of policies and laws that have been crafted by politicians over the years with Biden being one of those politicians

    Biden’s supporters are willing to jump as blindly off a cliff as the Trumpers

    We as Americans need to take stand before we are not able to

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      Biden did not dangle universal health in front of our faces for two elections, unless you count when he was VP under Obama; and even then ACA was in the first term of Obama and was not part of the platform for the second election. Biden’s platform never mentions universal health. It only talks about expanding access to Medicare and ACA, which he has already done.

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          I’m hoping the person who made the claim that they can’t vote because of policies and laws crafted by Biden will answer. I can’t find any evidence of Biden voting to stop felons from voting, only Biden helping get information and registration info to felons who are re-elligible in certain states. Maybe he did 30 or 40 years ago, but I couldn’t find it.

          The person who made that claim has some weird phrasing in their language that makes me doubt their claims of being an American who can’t vote. They also claim that Biden has been dangling universal health in from of our faces for two elections, but I don’t remember Biden running on that platform.

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            I’m hoping the person who made the claim that they can’t vote because of policies and laws crafted by Biden will answer.

            These fuckers never answer except with more lies.

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    The media would rather see a dictator be elected than be accused of not fully reporting on Biden’s age.

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      He’s completed many promises to my knowledge (and a quick Google search). Which one are you referring to?

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        Some that should have been easy if he cared about them: codify roe vs wade, decriminalize marijuana, forgive student loan debt.

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          I’ll have to do research on whether the President has the authority to codify anything, mostly to check the rules on that. Can’t speak on marijuana because, honestly, it’s not on my personal care list so I’m a bit more ignorant. Student loan debt though, he tried…right? Got turned down and has been working towards different paths. Seems like that one is in progress. Not sure we can blame him there.

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            The president can’t make laws but he campaigned that he would work with legislative branch (both sides of the isle) to get it done. However, he hasn’t seemed to prioritize that issue at all. He did have some bipartisan wins with $1T Infrastructure bill, CHIPS, PACT (Jon Stewart should get credit for that one) and some other wins, but the main social issues he campaigned on that touch most people’s lives directly haven’t had much success. Doesn’t help that he’s completely out of touch with economic reality for many and reluctant to take on corporate price gouging.

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    I’d be furious too, having such incompetent, out-of-touch advisors. This article alludes to it but others have gone more in-depth: Biden’s advisors keep telling him the economy is great, the problem is messaging: the American people just haven’t heard how great it is. Telling people struggling to pay their bills every month that they’re better off than they were four years ago isn’t messaging, it’s gaslighting. His advisors should be telling him the truth, that the economy is only good on paper, that while the “haves” are living large the “have nots” are not only struggling, their ranks are quickly growing. Don’t get me wrong, anyone who votes for Trump because they think he’ll do better at economic issues is a moron, but history shows that a lot of people are going to go this route come November at the current pace of things. And Biden’s advisors are just as moronic if they don’t understand this.

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      Biden’s advisors keep telling him the economy is great, the problem is messaging

      That’s literally fucking true though, all the data proves it, surveys even show that individuals consider their own circumstances to be better than in previous years but they assume they’re the exception and that the economy is shit.

      No wonder he’s frustrated.

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      I know I read somewhere that the GOP gets a boost during economic downturns because they are perceived as willing to make cuts required to fix things.

      Yes I am well aware, person angrily typing a reply, that the perception isn’t accurate.

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      I would imagine that the people who voted for Trump were angry.

      Some of that angry is genuine (Washington only represents the rich, lack of social mobility, wealth inequality, etc.) Here comes someone who doesn’t talk like a politician, promises action that resonates with their anger (punish China for taking manufacturing jobs, force companies to operate in America, rip up NAFTA, put America first economically, etc.) Trump is extremely charismatic. Voting for Trump becomes a political action to send a message to everyone. A big ol’ fuck you message.

      Then are those who voted for Trump because they saw in Trump the same racist, xenophobic, anti-LGBTQ, and hate that they have.

      After four years of nothing except chaos and hate filled policies. People wanted go back to the status quo of government not being in chaos and being run competently. What people didn’t want was return to economic status quo.

      While Biden’s government has be run competently and hasn’t been a four years of a soap opera drama. The Democrats have mostly upheld the economic status quo. Any changes made to the status quo will arguably take time to manifest. It’s hard to be optimistic that the situation will get better when we’re going through a cost of living crisis, home ownership is dead, social mobility will never happen, etc. People expected changes to happen. Those changes ain’t happening now. If anything people have gotten angrier.

      I know Lemmy isn’t a major bellwether of the internet. We’re outliers. However being the outliers means we can be signs of things to come. Post anything about the rich and there will be comments about guillotines. If the more radical people are saying that, chances are more moderate people are thinking it.

      People are once again in the position of do we vote for the candidate who mostly upholds the status quo while making changes that takes time to feel or the candidate is a big, giant fuck you to the Democrats and knows how people to play on people’s anger.

      If the Democrats had did massive, radical change there’s a chance the situation would be different. Messaging isn’t going to fix this. People’s feelings do not care about facts.

      Telling me facts about wages are going up, inflation is going down, etc. Doesn’t mean diddly squat when I feel like I will never retire, own a home, take vacations, etc.

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    Hurr durr behind the scenes Biden is “really worried” about the optics of supporting Genocide hurr durr.

    The few times Biden abuses his presidential powers it’s to throw his own election chances.

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    Good, he was sitting on his ass running on the idea he would win because Trump. I’m not sure about now, but a few weeks ago his campaign page was completely empty on policies that he would run on, literally nothing.

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      Looks like that’s still the case. His website only seems to be a place where you can donate or volunteer. Guess his campaign is just focused on social media now? I get the potential value in that; it’s like old-school campaigning. But wouldn’t you still want a clear and easy place outside of videos where people can reference your values, accomplishments, and further goals?

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        wouldn’t you still want a clear and easy place outside of videos where people can reference your values, accomplishments, and further goals?

        You would if you had any that align with those of the majority of the population, sure. Biden’s still living in 1992 like the rest of the DNC leadership and hasn’t changed since he bragged about attending more AIPAC events than any other politician in Washington, was the main proponent of that awful crime bill and advocated for cuts to Medicare and Social Security.

        Hell, I’m not even sure he’s changed his NIMBY attitude towards black people since he said of desegregation bussing that he “didn’t want his kids to grow up in a racial jungle”…

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        I’m not talking for myself, I’m talking about a friend that pointed that out to me. And that argument wouldn’t work on him, he sees Biden not having his platform listed on his website as a total lack of respect for the voter, regardless of what the Republicans do.

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    Abolish the electoral college. Popular vote now. If Biden wins the popular vote and loses the election we’re going to have serious problems.

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      Stop focusing on the popular vote and it’s not a problem. There’s 0 reason to vote Trump in California or New York, counting the democrat margin of victory there is disingenuous at best.

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    “Why don’t voters see that genocide is in our nation’s best interest?”

    “Why don’t voters care more about stock prices than food prices?”

    Unlike the orange baboon, he means well. He’s just so steeped in neoliberalism that he thinks he knows better than we do what we need.

    What I want is a president who cares more about Americans than America.

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      Unlike the orange baboon, he means well. He’s just so steeped in neoliberalism that he thinks he knows better than we do what we need.

      Probably spot on.

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      Biden may not care more about average Americans than America, but he at least cares more about Americans than Trump does.

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        he at least cares more about Americans than Trump does

        That’s like saying “at least he’s as adamant about minimizing civilian casualties as Netanyahu is”

        While absolutely true, it’s a textbook example of damning with extreme faint praise.

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      If you want a president that cares more about Americans than America, then you’ll love Joe Biden. If we compare republican to Democrat options of the past, you’d have to go back to Bush senior before you could even find a competitor to Biden. Before that, I think you’re back to Eisenhower.

      Biden does the best he can, but the president’s powers are limited. Even when he tries to exercise them faithfully, he’s stopped by the republican supreme court.

      To reduce those complex issues to single sentence, overly simplified questions is willfully disengenous.

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        No one is stopping Biden from ending aid to Israel - not congress, not the supreme court, no one. It is only this administration’s estimation that doing so would lessen our influence in the region that is preventing it.

        Biden is angry and frustrated that the American people don’t value retaining and extending regional power in the middle east as much as he does. He cares about us, but doesn’t want us to get in the way. Henry Kissinger may be dead, but he still has a lot of influence.

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          Ending aid to Israel would be ending any chance he has at reelection. This is the sad reality. Online, the vocal minority is quite loud. But in reality, Israel has broad, bi-partisan support in the USA.

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          Again, this is overly simplifying an extremely complex issue, and even in your own words you acknowledge the complexity while sweeping it under the rug.

          The choices that are presented to and decided by the president are rarely so easily evaluated and it is hard to believe that a conflict between Isreal and Palestine could be anything but extraordinarily complex.

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            “It’s very complicated. Don’t think that way. See it the way we’d like you to.”

            Yeah, you’re really persuading me here

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              Pick a side and stop moving the goal posts please.

              Or maybe you are enjoying your life in Russia, in which case I wish you the best of luck.

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        Obama was also up there, in my opinion, but I’m willing to be corrected. He passed the affordable care sct, and he could have done much more if it wasn’t because of the republicans opposing him for being Obama. The GOP shut down the government not once, but TWICE, under him, and I’m still bitter about it.

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          I wasn’t very clear, I was onky looking at past republican competitors. Pretty much any recent Democrat has done more to help the general public than republicans have in a long, long time.

          I’m not sure who’s done more, Biden or Obama. I think there’s lots to consider there and both of them have been heavily hampered by the regressive republicans.

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      You do realize that Congress is lock step along with supporting Israel with very few vocalizing opposition, right?

      Or did you just want to push the narrative that it’s only Biden?

      Your memes are bad and you should feel bad.

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      People who aren’t privileged enough to just ride out another 4 years of “the establishment will totally learn their lesson this time guys trust us!”

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      So our options are: man who supports a genocide, or man who will support a genocide, wishes to overthrow democracy, and is best buds with Putin.

      Is Joe perfect, or even good? Fuck no. But is he the best of the two options we’ve got rn? Absolutely, by a long shot.

      Everyone should care.

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    Considering it’s him or “bloodbath for the country” McGee, I think we are all angry and anxious about it.

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      Getting real tired of choosing between bad and worse, and knowing full well if I don’t support bad I’ll get stuck with worse because of the duopoly.

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        It’s possible to support 3rd parties in the US. Just not for the 2024 presidential case. If you really want to support them, unfortunately you will have to do more than just appear at the ballot box.

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        Outside of Gaza, I think Biden has done a surprisingly good job. A lot of shit landed on his plate and he’s dealt with it better than most presidents would have.

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          I agree with you, and I do believe he is working behind the scenes to mitigate the Palestinian genocide.

          Unfortunately, outside of Gaza is like saying, outside of the Holocaust. It’s a huge issue.

          If my vote counted, I’d vote for him, but I’m calling him genocide Joe for posterity.

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            So, you would have Biden bomb Israel? Get real, pin the blame on the cause, Bibi.

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              Of course Netanyahu, his ministers, the IDF and many of the people of Israel are to blame. Biden is also enabling him by sending weapons. How can you ignore that?

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          And while he may not be as progressive as many progressives would like him to be, I feel he’s been more progressive than most ever expected him to be…which is pleasantly surprising, since it’s not a course he had to take for political reasons.

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            If he hadn’t he would have lost all support from people who actually voted for him. Minimal effort is effort I guess.

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              I completely disagree.

              I think even if he had gone more to the center, he wouldn’t have lost any significant portion of the progressive vote he did get, and I think this holds true this year as well. (And at that, a shift to the middle would likely have netted him more votes pulled from disillusioned non-MAGA moderate Republicans in 2020 than he lost far left Lemmy-user votes).

              Having the name Donald Trump on the other side of the ballot is sufficiently powerful motivation for most reasonable progressives to “hold their nose and cast their ballot” for Biden. It might be a very different story if Biden were running against, say, a John Kasich or Larry Hogan, but that’s not what we’ve got. In that case, many on the left wing may see it more as a “both sides are the same so I’m voting third party to make a statement” election…but again, this isn’t that. In 2020 and now again in 2024, the choice is more accurately, “not making much ground on progressive causes” vs “regression on all fronts, combined with an attack on democracy, emboldening of fascists, racists, and militant bigots of all stripes”.

              …and personally, if a progressive can look at that decision and think they’re basically the same thing…I see that as only slightly less disappointing than a loud and proud MAGA zombie.

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                  Seeing the sheer stupidity of most Lemmy users who proudly align themselves as leftists is making me question leftists in general.

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            Yeah… i kinda feel this is more bc of increasing pressure via political climate, givenhis record in the senate, which also seems to go under the radar.

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          If people really followed Biden’s attempts to rein in Bibi, they would have a LOT more appreciation of his efforts too. Netanyahu is a madman yet Israel still needs protection.

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            I think the problem is even for people who have followed it, he’s still funding his genocide. I think Biden had helped with the bombing pause and hostage release. But since then, his attempts to rein Bibi in have fallen flat and he’s given a blank check.

            You make a good point about what if he stop supporting them and they are attacked. Israel is just as much a victim as Gaza. That would pretty quickly turn back around on Biden from a political perspective too.

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            It seems to me that it really strains credulity to suggest that the US has no further ability to reign in Natanyahu, especially if Isreal needs protection that badly. They basically depend on the US for their existence, but they also have the US over a barrel? How does that square up?

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            Israel needs protection to continue its apartheid. If it ceased its illegal occupation of Gaza and the West Bank and allowed Palestinians to return to their homes per international law, it wouldn’t have nearly so many enemies.

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          I still think that counts as “less bad,” not “good,” considering pretty much all presidents are absolutely bad.