• Unruffled@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Just a quick update, lemmy.world has posted an update that explains their decision here: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/16795373

    TLDR is that the person who removed the community is fairly new to the mod team and didn’t realize there was a bit of a history to this situation. Also, looks like they are sticking with the decision this time around though.

    Please don’t harass the lemmy.world admins/mods though - if you don’t like the situation you are free to register here or on another instance. And if you aren’t a lemmy.world user, then this doesn’t affect you at all.

    I’m proud of our community here, and it’s their loss, not ours! pirate captain giving the thumbs up

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      The translation is, “It wasn’t us don’t get angry, but also it kind of was one of us and also we are sticking by the decision so it may as well have been us.” I don’t really see that it matters if the story is true - in the best possible case they’re just saying that they don’t have a way of setting policies and having those policies be followed.

      If we’ve learned anything from centralised platforms it’s that size doesn’t protect platforms from the consequences of making bad decisions.

    • Dasnap@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Guess who just created a second account 👍

      Would be nice if there was a Firefox extension or something to ‘merge accounts’ as a workaround. Make things a little easier in situations like this.

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    Another reason why I like Fediverse

    If Lemmy.world would have full control over it, this community would just get banned, but there’s more and it is still accessable from all other places

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    Well I guess that shows why I main kbin and not lemmy.world. Absolute dogshit decision from them.

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    I made a account last time lemmy.wold blocked this community. Seems like il be sticking with this account for now

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      It hasn’t banned it, but they turned it into a meme community, which can be worse than being banned.

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      Why would Reddit ban it? It’s an easy way for them to collect users’ IP address for their corporate overlords.

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        The optics of a potentially publicly traded company (what ever happened with the Reddit IPO thing?) openly having a “how to steal other companies copyrighted work” forum is more of a negative than IP farming with no method to actually do anything useful with the IP addresses.

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          I think Reddit would have to tackle the mountains of porn too for those optics.

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            Porn is less of a legal liability than copyright claims is my guess.

            Also… like… if somebody is dumping money into Reddit as a user of Reddit, which is more likely to make them stop: killing the piracy forums or the porn forums?

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              It’s not about the legal liability and more that publically traded corporations only want profit. Reddit would need to cater to advertisers who would not like all the porn, it’s why Tumblr and Imgur removed the porn.

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                Specifically, the executives and shareholders want their Publicly Traded Shares of company stock to be increasing in value. Advertisers are good for getting long term holders of the stock to keep holding and buying, but everybody else is looking to quietly pump up the numbers and sell what they can without upsetting the apple-cart.

                I’d bet a shiny metal dollar that after the IPO starts, the porn subs will slowly start being winnowed down. Give it a few years and if any exist they will be private.

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    The speed that this happened suggests they might have gotten spooked by something. Put down the pitchforks mates and give them a chance to explain first.

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    Sigh. At least the benefits of federation include being free to move into other instances while LW can pull stuff like this (probably because they get the heat from being the largest instance).

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    A disunited federation is still a federation.

    AFAIK, lemmy.world cannot remove !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com (but block this community or instance), because lemmy.world is another instance.

    Pirates interested in this communities will find a way to lurk or participate.

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    A few of the bigger instances have been very open about the fact that they’re anti-piracy, anti-porn, etc and removing this community is par for the course with such a stance.

    What does that mean for the average user? It means there’s more incentive to move to better instances. It’s when instances have such a monopoly on users and communities that people should not only move, but advocate for other people moving to smaller instances.

    Also a major benefit of not being federated by large instances is that there’s less surface area for search engines and thus resources last longer.

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      Imo the issue here is that how Lemmy works right now, or maybe just its apps, seems to have the trend of pushing most people onto the largest instance(s) like .world

      If the point of the Fediverse is to have a decentralized userbase, that trend needs to be reversed.

      Even if we give .world admins the benefit of the doubt and say they got in legal trouble or something this time, having a userbase properly spread across many instances would prevent that instance from having the obvious target.