“Walt Bismarck,” a neoreactionary/alt-right blogger, decided to live by his beliefs and move from the liberal hellhole of Arizona to the midwest:
In 2018 I moved from a racially diverse swing state in the Sun Belt to a homogenous red state up in corn country. This decision was largely motivated by politics—I was looking to retreat to an imagined hyperborea free of crime and degeneracy where my volk had political autonomy.
The particular delight here is the section “Reason #3 - White people are no longer my most important ingroup”.
It turns out they don’t like him, they don’t like his ideas, and the white womenfolk don’t take to him. The frauleins prefer “stoic chudbots with rough hands and smooth brains” over his noble mind and physique.
In practice a society that encourages late marriage is actually much better for more bookish eccentric guys, who tend to be late bloomers in developing their masculinity and ability to seduce women.
(meaning: he came on weird at one of the nice church girls he was ogling to the point where one of her large guy friends suggested he take his leave.)
Our guy comes so close to introspection, but successfully evades it and reaches the root cause - these are the wrong kind of white people:
But these Midwesterners aren’t descended from entrepreneurial adventurers like the rest of us. Their forebears were conflict averse and probably low testosterone German Catholics who fled Bismarck’s kulturkampf to acquire cheap land under the Homestead Act. These people mostly settled areas where aggro Scotch Irish types had driven off the Injun decades ago, so they never had to embrace the risk-tolerant, enterprising, itinerant mindset that had once fueled Manifest Destiny. Instead they produced families that became weirdly attached to their generic little plot of fungible prairie dirt, and as a result we now have huge pockets of the country full of overcivilized and effete Teutons with no conquering spirit who treat outsiders like shit.
There is no shortage of genuine and active neo-Nazis out Iowa way. But they would have met Wordy NRx Boy here and flushed his head.
In the comments section, other racists call him out on his insufficient devotion to the cause of white nationalism.
Even our good friends at The Motte took the piss out of him.
The illustrations are, of course, AI-generated.
original post. Found on Bluesky by ratelimitexceeder.
The food news is this useless cunt will die one day.
The food news
Soylent green is useless white nationalists!
Drunk typo takes an unexpected twist!
The next RW moral panic is going to be ‘The left is normalizing cannibalism’ so good job there drunk you, feeding the propaganda machine.
bovine spongiform fascism
At first I wondered why a post about a man disavowing white supremacy wasn’t NSFW; but it’s because he didn’t get any better? He’s not a white supremacist because white supremacy is too inclusive and not racist enough against the shittier whites? He concluded that an ENTIRE GEOGRAPHICAL REGION was genetic backwash before he considered self-reflection?
It is completely insane what the substack/X combo is doing to young men. It’s like CTE but concentrated entirely on the part of your brain that lets you tolerate other races.
Also this comment from the motte is definitely ethnonationalist, no?
Agreed, though, that a lot of white Americans are kind of like hobbits, in their lack of antibodies against general blank slatism, outgroup preferences, and progressive American culture. They might make a stink face at the young white male cosmopolitan who arrives in town for an extended study abroad program, but will root for outsiders and people that hate them when it comes to college football/basketball, the NFL, the NBA. Quokka would be the rationalist sphere term of art, here. “Cucks” might even apply. Relatedly, this has been touched upon in the Norf FC series of memes with regard to whites on the other side of the pond.
It’s the Motte special. Comments that are structurally culture critiques, but functionally a Turner Diaries summary.
I dont know if I’m not as smart as I thought, or not as knowledgeable in pseudoscience as I thought because this just reads to me like someone who sniffs their own farts stroking their ego because they shit out a comment they think is incredibly meaningful.
Agreed. This person is basically just discovering he doesn’t actually like people in a general sense and he can’t use the self gaslighting notion of skin color to pretend there’s people out there he actually likes. His window of acceptable is so small he’s practically the only one who can squeeze through.
In part he can’t let go of whiteness as a label and synonym of superiority so when he finds a version of whiteness he finds subpar and unworthy by his own veiws of what it should be he compares that version of whiteness to… (checks notes) the Ming dynasty Chinese. He starts describing everything in what has been trained into him as language describing the inferior.
All he ever really wanted was to be openly horrible to everyone with little to no consequences… Because kindness and empathy is just not something he understands. If it doesn’t serve him directly it’s trash. It’s easy to pretend to an in-group when you just shout the same nonsense and get rewarded with pats on the back for playing along, but that doesn’t translate to people legitimately caring about you. It’s not actual empathy and human connection. It’s just reciprocity. The minute you stop playing tit-for-tat in a reciprocity based movement for any reason you get abandoned. This guy is so far along that pipeline that he can’t leave and can’t distinguish the human in anyone. It’s sad.
Completely agree. But while it is sad, at the same time I also am starting to lose empathy for them because they get to a point where they start to just want everyone to be miserable like they are. And when you get enough of them, they can start doing some real damage.
Yeah… I don’t mean sad in a “I want to make taking on their bullshit and trying to redeem them my personal project” kind of way. They desire empathy and I can understand where they come from (even if it’s grounded in evil bullshit) but babystepping them bit by bit into being reasonable to be around is gunna light whomever tries to do it’s mental health on fire.
I do not afford them empathy. Saying that I understand and feel the situation is sad isn’t pathos. They made this bed through a series of conscious choices and there is a human cost to believing what they believe that is unconscionable. I am simply sad that the situation has progressed to this.
He’s (very wordly) paraphrasing the common esoteric right wing belif that anti-racism is a belief only truly held by whites, and that it is simultaneously the contemporary western white’s only mistake.
A cousin from the same parent thread goes a step further and claims that whites…
I think he seems to have realized a terrible truth for a lot of WNs who are deeply used to their particular kind of persecution complex and enemy hierarchy, which is that much of the state of the modern west is a direct product of the ‘white temperament’ and white population preferences, possibly on a genetic level.
…are GENETICALLY inclined to support diversity, which is a claim so fantastically racist that it might just offend everyone on Earth.
The way tha “cuck” has been elevated to a genuine category in their armchair social science is such a warm breeze of insanity whenever I come across it
Internet weirdo to salt-of-the-earth Midwesterners: at least you’re all not cucks!
SotEMW: cucks?
IW: you know, like that porn where a white dude watches black dudes fuck his wife!
SotEMW: <racks shotgun slide> get the hell away from my daughter
At this point I have to genuinly wonder how many people using the term “cuck” actually have any idea what it means.
remember when Tea Partiers were teabagging?
And then they denied that any of them had ever embraced the term, stapled tea bags to their hats, etc.
What the fuck is “slatism”? That’s not a word, innit?
“blank slatism”, here used to mean those fools that don’t think race science is true
I think it should be hyphenated, “blank-slatism” but I can’t be bothered to figure out what meaning the term is supposed to convey.
Well yeah, because he’s the sort of person who becomes a white supremacist. They’re not smart people, they’re miserable people looking for something to blame for their own failures. So yeah of course he decided to blame midwesterners for being the catholic Germans instead of the Protestant Germans
So this guy had to regress back to before non-english types got their white card, got it 😂
Scraping for racism.
These people’s obsession with “bloodlines” is astounding. The world isn’t fucking Naruto
I’m always very nonplussed about what claims to pass for thought in white nationalist crowds.
The stopped-clock moment in this whole is definitely where he dimly grasps that Republican audiences are way more openly positive to white nationalism than they were.
I love it there’s a comment attacking him for not wanting to preserve the white race. "The fuck’s the matter with you?
I can understand if you’re a mestizo groyper who just wants to do what’s right and to live in a generically-good society, but if you’re a white man of competence, you have a duty to do what you can ensure the long-term survival of your heritage.
Of children born to at least one white parent, only 80% are racially pure"
The follow-up destroyed me
How many kids have you fathered for the cause, Charles?
The
neo-nazisgroypersreactionariesCaucasian enjoyers have reached peak levels of eating each otheralways heartwarming when you see how nazis hate each other as much as they hate the rest of us
there’s an I Don’t Speak German where Daniel talks about some Nazi streamer who is outraged that the Left have this magic hack of being nice and helpful to each other and it’s totally unfair
Also amazed me re protests, far right prepping for protests: ‘we should train how to march or hold a shield wall’. Far left: ‘here is a guide on how to deal with common injuries, we should have people as medics, and provide some snacks, drinks, and guidance for people on what to do when they get kettled/arrested’.
You guys notice how he capitalizes “white” but not “black” even when they’re used in the same sentence? A pathetic little weirdo to the last little detail.
also capitalizes a couple other racial group references when the mood strikes, all “tactically” used/chosen
the amount of effort you have to expend just to hate that specifically… fucking mental
i’m shocked that regular midwest socially conservative normal people didn’t flock to him
can’t just rush in with that kind of newfangled highfallutin’ racism, amirite?! /s
and feel there are a number of nonracial issues that have since become much more important than the things WNs fixate on
like staying out of jail? and making profit off loons? at least, I’m guessing those are the priorities
conflict averse and probably low testosterone German Catholics […] overcivilized and effete Teutons
Kind of off topic, but this piece of wall to wall insanity reminded me how Steven Pinker tried to explain away southern US crime rates that didn’t fit with his Violence Is Declining And In Fact Everything’s Improving Inexorably (As Long As You Don’t Rock The Boat) thesis by randomly blaming irish-catholic sheepherder genealogy.
Scotch-Irish Presbyterian cattle ranchers, IIRC.
Damn scots ruining everything again!
Now hold on, I don’t want to say he’s WHOLLY wrong about my people
I made it embarrassingly far into this article, but it was “five figure wagecuck hell” that for some reason made me stop and think, why am I still reading this garbage?
Identical experience. Goddamnit kid just get drunk and write a bad poem
I made it a lot farther before I just couldn’t anymore. I was kinda hoping for some kind of real self-reflection or ability to further understand the mindset of people like him but it’s just the same “sigma grindset” bullshit they always spout.
Welcome to the abyss! Here’s your hazmat suit with a leak! It sucks here!
“These women and their soyboy catamites refuse to engage with ideas that make them feel bad”
Tag yourself I’m These Women but I surround myself with soyboy catamites.
“During the early 2010s White Americans were under serious attack as a collective in a way that warranted an organized response.”
White American here and I can unequivocally state that this was not true then and it’s not true now.
I had to really think hard about what happened in 2010 for him to alleve such a thing and for the life of me I couldn’t think of anything until I realized that we elected a black president in 2008, so perhaps I just didn’t watch enough conservative media which presumably was giving it’s users a constant barrage of your “under attack” fud.
I’ll bet you it was the ACA.
Google is telling me it was March 2010 apparently for the ACA? Sounds like a winner.
You have to remember that this guy was 12 at the time
Low testosterone German Catholics
hahahaha
These idiots will never get the message that scientific racism is dog shit. They can’t stop obsessing over weird irrelevant shit
Catholics, well known for their low fertility
Every sperm is sacred.
Cheezus! That’s like a lot of discussion and commentary about a random fascist chud, over at the Motte, innit?
Yeah dude i was looking for schadenfruede but all i got was a masturbatory tirade about how this guy isn’t calling himself a white nationalist anymore because republicans are basically racist enough for him now and don’t have the skinheaded baggage of his former friends. I honestly hope he dies on the toilet.
and - a key point - his prospective tradwaifus don’t want him
But only because he’s not a "smooth brained chud " like their boyfriends and has totally slept with over a 100 women ::eye roll::
That bit was so much secondhand cringe. Imagine being a 30 year old who thinks he’s posting from the master race and then suddenly you slip back into an /r/braincels rant.
I do hope everybody here is aware of the deeper TheMotte lore, and what kind of place it is.
E: also themotte mentions the ‘alt light’ (not by name) but I heard a rumor that apparently a lot of these yt alt light people were paid by shady people to make rightwing content. The YT’er (sorry if you know any of those) chrisraygun apparently revealed it, but I have not looked into it at all.
I do hope everybody here is aware of the deeper TheMotte lore, and what kind of place it is.
No clue whatsoever, but I got the impression from the way they were talking about this guy, that they are basically sophisticated fascists and reactionaries.
it’s an offshoot from the r/slatestarcodex subreddit and scott alexander has directly recommended it to slatestarcodex readers
it’s wordy Nazis debating things
That context means almost nothing to me. I’m not familiar with those actors either. But I can understand “wordy nazis” at least 😅
Scott Alexander Siskind, his blog SlateStarCodex and now AstralCodexTen are a pack of lesswrong rationalists and deeply on-topic for sneerclub, sadly, so you probably willl in future
Gotcha. Thanks for taking the time to fill me in
This reminds me of a report from the Nazi ambassador to Iceland sometime in the late 1930s. He was posted there, expecting to find a model Aryan utopia, as could only be inevitable from a population of pure Nordic blood, but was bitterly disappointed to find a provincial backwater whose people were happy to stay put and get on with their lives. The schadenfreude was palpable.
More recently there was a family from Canada who moved to Russia because Canada was too “woke” only to find that Russia wasn’t the woke free paradise they expected.
An undertone in Dutch weird right wing twitter is a desire to move to Russia/(sometimes Viktor Orbáns Hungary) because at least there they still have freedoms and rights. And they accuse the left of living in a filter bubble.
I bet they started blaming Russia’s communist past for all its current “wokeness”
According to Wonkette, they’re now in danger of deportation because they don’t know any Russian, and don’t seem interested in learning it
https://www.wonkette.com/p/canadian-idiots-who-fled-to-russia
Sask strong!
I’d watch this livestream
Dude sold his farm and moved his entire family (wife+8 fucking kids!) on a fucking whim. I feel bad for the kids and hope none of them grow up to be as stupid as their dad.
I just read an account of the Nazi occupation of Norway in WW2 and it was a bit like that. The local Nazis (the OG Quisling!) were widely hated, there was passive resistance at every turn, and very few Norwegians were interested in some sort of “racial bond” with Germany.
online or deadtree? either way I’d be interested in reading that
Deadtree and in Swedish: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52641078-under-st-veln-norge-1940-1945
Gross. White nationalists should be called what they are, bigots made of dog excrement. Their ancestors would not just be totally ashamed of them, but would actively disown them in every possible way. They are not what represents America and it’s ideals, but the exact opposite; they represent horror, hate, subtraction, and misery.
I think the reason they behave like they do is because their own personal lives are so miserable. It’s no surprise they have bad relationships and can’t get along with reasonable people.
Anyway I wish there was a separate, walled-off island where they could all go and shoot at each other indiscriminately and hang each other from trees over stupid minor differences. If that’s what they want, the live in utter hell, then that’s exactly what they so richly deserve to have.
If you don’t think white supremacy and nationalism represents American ideals I’ve got a reality check for you. It absolutely does and there has never been a time when that wasn’t true. “Our” country was built on horror, hate, subtraction, and misery.
Maybe I should have said, white supremacy and nationalist don’t represent what the dream of America is SUPPOSED to be about. I’m not naive, I’m well aware that unfortunately those things do represent a hell of lot of what’s happened here.
All too true that our country was built on a history of violence, displacement, and mistreatment of others, and that’s something we need to not erase or forget about, but keep reminding ourselves of so we don’t repeat the horrors of the past.
I do agree with you on all the points you’re making.
I think I know what you mean when you say that but I think you’re still saying basically the same thing. The so called American dream is based on those horrific and violent ideals. We need to go back much farther in our history or look into the history of others if we want to find a time that we had uncorrupted or rather non selfish values. I’m still not sure it ever existed, it certainly hasn’t in this “country”. What I am sure of is that we can make a better future with or without the outdated notions of American ideals .
Agreed and let’s hope we do build a better future despite the horrors of our past.
Agreed. Thanks for the interesting discussion :)
Thank YOU as well, I thoroughly enjoyed it!
your heart’s in the right place
Thanks - my heart’s in the right place, I just have to get the rest of me there somehow. Sorry for going off, but it was something I felt needed saying.
