Last month Trump vowed to defend Christianity and urged Christians to vote for him

“This is really a battle between good and evil,” evangelical TV preacher Hank Kunneman says of the slew of criminal charges facing Donald Trump. “There’s something on President Trump that the enemy fears: It’s called the anointing.”

The Nebraska pastor, who was speaking on cable news show “FlashPoint” last summer, is among several voices in Christian media pressing a message of Biblical proportions: The 2024 presidential race is a fight for America’s soul, and a persecuted Trump has God’s protection.

“They’re just trying to bankrupt him. They’re trying to take everything he’s got. They’re trying to put him in prison,” author, media personality and self-proclaimed prophet Lance Wallnau said in October on “The Jim Bakker Show”, an hour-long daily broadcast that focuses on news and revelations about the end times that it says we are living in.

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    Hilarious to me that trump checks nearly every box for the literal antichrist, and the Christian’s love him.

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      That’s makes sense actually, anitchrist means the End Times^TM are here. Christians see that as a good thing

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        But isn’t getting deceived by him supposed to get you an express ticket to hell?

        You’d think they’d be a little more cautious

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          Given the figure that most closely matches the projected boogeyman in something like 2 Thess 2 was Paul himself, they’ve been deceived for nearly two millennia now.

          At this point, gravitating to a narcissist grifter is just par for the course.

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      His name is 669 when put into Aramaic and that old Middle East way of counting is applied to the letters?

      Teasing. I take your meaning.

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      Dude if Jesus appeared tomorrow the Republicans would line up to burn him. They don’t have real beliefs, just symbols.

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        While I think they would nail him to a cross, without noticing the irony, rather than burn him, you’re not wrong. Jesus is too woke for them.

        Moore told NPR in an interview released Tuesday that multiple pastors had told him they would quote the Sermon on the Mount, specifically the part that says to “turn the other cheek,” when preaching. Someone would come up after the service and ask, “Where did you get those liberal talking points?”

        “What was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, ‘I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ,’ the response would not be, ‘I apologize.’ The response would be, ‘Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak,’” Moore said. “When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.”

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          I was thinking of this exact thing when commenting! And now we learn that Trump was put here by God for reasons.

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      After he croaks itll be, “Trump gave us…” which id argue is infinitely stupider than believing an unseen, unprovable entity being behind Sr. Racismo.

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    If I believed that an antichrist could exist, I would be convinced it was Donald Trump. He is the opposite of what Christianity teaches yet somehow he’s become their Messiah.

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      In that warped eschatology subculture, a common belief is that the antichrist will be raised in the church and come to power by deceiving the church into thinking he’s a prophet or messianic figure. Basically any authoritarian they choose to follow is the perfect figure to fit their beliefs. With Trump, for instance, they can point to “Christian” actions like blind support for Israel as the representatives of the original “chosen people” or his role in anti-choice enforcement or any us-vs-them conflict action that makes them feel like they are the current chosen people. Then if he turns out to be just another bad person who deceived them, they’ll mark it off as a fluke, immediately forget all the evil they helped him do, and look for the next antichrist candidate.

      Evangelicalism is a very sinister belief system. They literally want the rapture/tribulation to come about as soon as possible, preferably in their lifetime. They don’t actually care about any of the people they think are non-chosen. I would say the Calvinists/Reformed Protestants are even worse, because they believe the verses about some people being ordained before birth to be “elected” by God to be saved without any say of their own, and the vast majority of people are also predestined for eternal destruction (https://www.learnreligions.com/five-point-calvinism-700356).

      And they all vote.

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    The man is the living embodiment of the seven deadly sins: pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, and sloth. And this is the guy God sent? Maybe there is a reason for that.

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    How is this not endorsing political candidates which means their tax exemption should be revoked?

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    “Evangelicals demonstrate that their beliefs aren’t not, in fact, closely held.”

    In a sane world the blatant hypocrisy would be a slam dunk in terms of removing any protections or privileges they enjoy as a “religion.”

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    I get the feeling a carpenter-turned-messiah wouldn’t choose a dude who is well known for not paying his contractors.

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        Why can’t I escape Dune? Maybe the worse novel I ever read except I managed to get into about halfway into the sequel which is somehow even lower.

        The only things I like about the Dune franchise

        • The original movie. Most excellent. Almost no religious bullshit and plenty of worms

        • Teasing a friend of mine in IT about how in the Dune universe IT has to “service” the Mentants and clean the tanks of the navigators.

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          @afraid_of_zombies May as well ask why you can’t escape David Lynch. He lets us crackers telegraph we like to get a little quirky if we associate with his brand and it goes to our head. Dune is like oh I’m a guy who reads sci fi books yeah I’ve read the Major Titles shit. I read it when I was a teenager and was like fuck this guy is tedious and by book 3 he’s a huge goddamned creep and everything is contrived beyond belief, even considering what went on up to that point lol

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            I still can’t get over the fact that the book has extra chapters of explanation of the plot in the back. You have to do fucking homework to read the novel!

            Couldn’t just gradually fill in details as it went along like every sci-fi novel out there?

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              @afraid_of_zombies the lore for buddislam and stuff is beyond insulting to the historic centers of world civilization and to the fucking reader because there are zero details i hate his dumb ass

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                  Here, here! I fucking hate Tolkeins writing. Hell even Asimov gets into way too much tellling, not showing. I most certainly am not reading some fucking appendix because the author is too much of a hack to write some exposition between a few characters explaining the rules of the story. It’s like fucking Niel Stevenson giving a very bland and basic-ass lesson in vocabulary at the start of Anathem. Go climb up into your asshole farther, Niel. If I’m reading sci-fi in English I know how to look up a word, and most certainly don’t need you to fucking explain it to me.

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      ‘True’ Christianity was probably something radically different from what survived the filter of initially Jerusalem’s influence and then later Rome’s.

      At this point, it’s just a grab bag of “pick your own Christianity” with a high likelihood none of them are 100% a reflection of the original.

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        I don’t agree. Christianity exists today because of the institutions that Paul built not because of any given Gospel that they had. Institutions always win out over ideas. The “true” Christianity was the church. Even if something Gnostic had worked it’s way into the Bible it isn’t like there would be a major difference in how the religion operates.