• KneeTitts@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 months ago

    Its literally their go to response for everything now when you mention trump crimes to them

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      4 months ago

      Well that’s your problem; you’re talking to a brick wall and expecting intelligent discourse in return.

      These people have no integrity so if it wasn’t this it would be something else. They don’t care whether it’s true or not because they don’t even care what it is, it’s just [placeholder criticism] that can be freely slotted in and out with whatever Fox News buzzwords are en vogue at the time.

      Stop wasting your time trying to save the damned.

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        4 months ago

        “Dont even bother trying to educate those idiots” seems like a horrible strategy, both for electoral politics and for society in general.

        You’re right that there are some cultists who are irredeemable, but there are many more on the fringes who can be helped.

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          4 months ago

          Nuance, friend.

          The message isn’t don’t educate the willing, the message is learn to pick your battles. I believe in the philosopher’s burden and allegory of the cave too, but I understand that even if you could tear from their chains and into the light, they still cannot see unless they’re willing to open their eyes.

          I’m not saying don’t try to convert any opposition, I’m saying don’t waste your time with those who have cut off their ears.

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          It’s not a matter of education.

          It requires deprogramming.

          First step is listing the contradictions. The internet is full of this.

          Second step is all on them, they need to start accepting the contradictions.

          No one can force someone to take this step and it’s very unlikely a random internet stranger is going to be the one they trust.

          Ultimately, the ones any of us have a chance of helping are those we know in our personal lives. Remaining zero contact until they are ready is acceptable to preserve one’s sanity and self care.