• ikidd@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Like, fuck Sean Hannity and all that, but I’m pretty sure if half the Lemmy users were in control, I’d be allowed to eat nothing but leaves and have to cut my gas stove into pieces so I could bike it to the recycle depot.

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      That’s where I diverge from most of the Lemmy leftists. As an anarchist, I cannot force you to do any of those things, even if I think they are good. You must choose to do it yourself, and I must convince you to do it.

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      6 months ago

      Oh nooo eating plants and riding bikes and recycling and not using stoves that give you memory loss! What a terrible world that would be.

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        6 months ago

        The stove thing is soo stupid. It’s not even a ban on gas stoves, it’s just requiring you to properly ventilate areas when they are installed.

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          Or the alternate zoning thing that also got caught up in this: no new gas connections. That’s also not taking anything away, just changing what gets built. It also doesn’t cost more: the big cost is when you need to convert one set of infrastructure to another: can we just avoid that headache?

          If conservatives really believed in “fiscal restraint” why can’t the see new gas connections as a waste of money creating infraStructure that will long outlive its usefulness? No city grows fast enough for this to really help much with our energy transition, this is merely stop wasting money on something we need to get away from

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          6 months ago

          Yeah people act like Joe Biden is going to personally show up at their house, kick them in the nuts, and take a sledgehammer to the stove. I mean, I’d pay to see that, but it’s really just various levels of government saying, “Hey, breathing this stuff in isn’t great for your brains, here are some financial incentives if you want to replace your stove.” The reality is kind of boring.

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            6 months ago

            All decent, common-sense, regular everyday reality is boring. That’s why it never makes the news.

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            6 months ago

            yeah the worst thing that would happen is next time you replace your stove you’d have to get an induction stove and maybe some electrical work

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            Hmm, I think there may be some overlap between “people whose brains have been damaged by improperly-ventilated gas stoves” and “people who think the government wants to rip their gas stoves out of their house and leave them to freeze.”

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              I know those are the same people who would never look at data or facts, but ….

              My ex lives in “new-ish” townhouse (just a few decades old, which is new for this area). It’s new enough to be fairly weathertight. However it is gas but the stove has that “ventilation” where it sucks up all the smoke and toxic gases and grease, and blows them in your face. However, now they also have an air quality monitor and it’s eye opening just how quickly the air quality gets bad, and how bad it gets, when they use the stove. Anyhow who cares about facts or reality should really get a look at something like this. In any sane world, it would change minds

    • Anise (they/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      6 months ago

      I always have to talk my folks down from shit they heard on Fox and Newsmax. They have called me frantically panicking that:

      -There is a new gender neutral bathroom in addition to the M and F rooms at their gym!

      “So you haven’t been inconvenienced in any way?”

      " They are going to take the women’s room away! I don’t want to change next to a MAN!"

      “… Are they taking the women’s room away and forcing you into the gender neutral one?”

      " well no…"

      “So you haven’t been inconvenienced in any way. This sounds fine. Why are you calling me again?”

      -The government is going to force them to switch to electric cars and they don’t have a convenient outdoor outlet to charge a car!

      “Did you get a letter that they are going to seize your car?”

      “No not yet but they are going to do it soon!”

      “Okay, well that sounds like it probably isn’t imminent, why dont we wait to see of you get a letter and then we can react then; worst case we take it to court. Also, someday you will have to replace your old car and an electric one might be a good option for you guys. Dad is getting too old to get under the car to change oil and you know he’s too stubborn to take it to a shop. You don’t need a lot of range, you only go to church, the grocery store, and your craft club. There are incentives to put in a charger anyway.”

      My dad has a heart condition and these fuckers are driving both of them to an early grave for cheap political points. Fuck these fear profiteers.

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    6 months ago

    we have to push through oil billionare led faux culture wars. fuck gas appliances and fuck the animal ag industry

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    6 months ago

    Yeah well the other side also wants to take away our household appliances and our meat, and also everything else by enabling corporations to squeeze everyone dry even more than they already are.

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    Dead animal flesh, and animal exploitation is central to fascist identity, dunno why anyone halfway sane would want to be associated with that.