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What is there to argue? Like there’s video evidence of it happening
BOAT FUEL CANT MELT STEEL BEAMS
Same with 9/11. That doesn’t stop people.
There were no construction workers killed in the collapse! It was all fake!
The CIA caused the ship to lose power!
The ship was remote controlled! There wasn’t actually anybody on board until after the collision!
The “construction workers” were actually deep state black ops agents that were there to loosen bolts on the bridge to ensure it collapsed when the ship hit it.
And so on… Never underestimate the fantasies that conspiracy theorists can come up with.
Why is it that hard to believe that accidents happen? Just because something was interesting enough to reach headlines that means there had to have been an ulterior motive???
I know you can’t make sense of these people, but how the hell do you even make those leaps in the first place…
I’m going back to my cave.
My thought is they don’t have much positive going on in their lives so they get validation from these conspiracies. It makes them feel smart because they see the real truth.
All I know about bridges is how to sell them, and I have one right now I can guarantee was built by an entirely white construction team. I examined their skull shapes myself. I’ll just need about $80 million, and it’s all yours, Elon.
Dude this thread has some of the funniest comments I’ve seen in a while and this one.
This reminds me of a line from K.I.Z.:
“Nazis erkenn’ ich an der Kopfform.”
(I recognise Nazis by the shape of their skulls.)
There is a saying in engineering.
Anyone can build a bridge.
It takes an engineer who can build a bridge just strong enough to let cars cross it.
Wait till you see what the airplane and rocket guys have to do.
Oh man, as a (non structural) engineer I love the saying
“Any asshole can build a bridge, but only an engineer can barely build a bridge”
Never heard that one. Sharp.
Razor sharp, just like the safety factor of that bridge
I’ve heard it as “Anyone can build a bridge that stands, it takes an engineer to build a bridge that barely stands.”
I mean, all it takes is a look at the cost of shit like tuition and text books to conclude college is a scam, but that doesn’t equal a disrespect for the knowledge of people who’ve gone through it.
The difference lies in whether the speaker thinks the problem is the clearly evident financial exploitation or thinks that the education isn’t valuable.
(I almost walked away from commenting on this like three times. Hopefully I made sense) I don’t believe that modern college equals education, necessarily. How many corporate VPs have impressive college credentials but took nothing away more than future networking? Education is extremely valuable as is an educated society. And I get that we’re talking about people who do not value the societal benefit of a well-rounded education. Schools don’t seem to value it anymore either. We’ve commodified “knowledge”. It’s merely a stepping stone to better earnings. Engineering and medicine, though, are two positions I think anyone with a couple of brain cells to rub together should value the quality of their educations.
I’d argue that commodification of knowledge doesn’t equate to the college experience not being educational. A lot of it boils down to the individual getting out of it what they put in: I’ve had my share of bullshit online classes that I only took to check the prereq box, didn’t give a single flying fuck about the material, gave it the absolute minimum, and finished it having gained only debt and a slightly shinier transcript. I don’t remember shit from those classes other than the feeling that they were a waste of time and money.
They were fascinating to some of my classmates. And vice versa: microbiology for example was one I didn’t think I’d take much out of when I was doing pre-nursing (there are way better study-of-tiny-bastard topics for pre-nursing, like clinical pathology; microbio is WAY more broad, and hit or miss in relevancy to the kind of work nurses do). Some of the topics microbio blew my fucking mind though… like did you know some bacteria have a literal fucking motor inside of them that spins their flagella around like a microscopic propeller?! Or a protein that walks along the lengths of nanotubuoles. We are stuffed with tiny, home-grown robots… and it makes my brain explode. Other pre-nursing peeps though? Couldn’t give the tiniest bit of a shit about it, cuz knowing about walking proteins n’ whatnot isn’t useful AT ALL for nursing.
And people like to bitch about English classes, but having been on the workforce for a good couple of decades now: writing is how you advance your career. SO useful, but SO underrated and undervalued by students.
I took a criminal justice course cuz I needed an elective and the classes I wanted were all full, so… fuck it. Wrong field, didn’t care, just there to check the box… walked away with a fresh appreciation for how fucked up our legal system is, and a kind of legal mindset for some non-criminal topics but turn out to be applicable.
Point is: the knowledge and education are there; whether the individual student engages with it in a meaningful way is up to the individual student. I’ve been on both sides of the coin, and have been surprised a few times.
Yeah say what you will I may not have gotten much out of all my classes, but as an engineer I was changed by intro to Greek and Roman culture and by intro to stand up comedy. Blow off classes to some but I loved them. I paid more attention to them than to chem which really bit me in the ass come thermo.
There are mainly 2 types of “college is a scam” people. Type 1 is anti-education and places more value on what they typically refer to as “common sense” and think that you don’t need an education to know about something. They’re the type most likely to think they know more than experts and argue with engineers about bridges. Type 2 is more anti-capitalist and doesn’t view education as a scam itself but rather how costly that education is and the opportunities provided to educated people who paid the price is what they see as a scam. They’re usually capable of recognizing and acknowledging their lack of understanding about a topic and listen to experts because they do value education, they just think access to it should be easier and cheaper and provide more tangible results for the effort put into obtaining it. This post is probably talking about type 1.
Same thing with Big Pharma. People hear that pharmaceutical companies are greedy and untrustworthy and think it means that their medicine doesn’t work. It does, they just charge excessive amounts of money for it. We don’t hate big pharma because vaccines don’t work, we hate Big Pharma because they sell insulin at a 10,000% markup
I don’t know, finishing my engineering degree has opened up many a door to well paying careers.
My other two bachelor degrees (business and criminal justice) are completely useless.
You just need to start designing prison management systems. Problem solved.
I was a little weird to hear that loud bang and see all that smoke across the entire bridge a few seconds AFTER the ship seemed to steer right into the column.
Sound is slower than light.
The ship steered into the column, passed by and then about 2 or 3 seconds later there was a loud boom across the entire bridge followed by smoke across the entire bridge.
“I just don’t see how the whole bridge falls over that fast”
Bruh it is a ten million ton cargo ship bumping into it, do u think it’s just gonna bounce off?
Sure you can build a bridge they can withstand a crazy like that. It’ll cost more than the cities it connects and nobody has a budget for that.
Pfft, just put big magnets on either side of the bridge to make sure it goes in the middle!
Magnets stop working if they get wet, like under a bridge
Fire.
That ship was about 100,000t.
There’s a fairly crude equation in the American bridge engineering standard that relates impact load to the mass of a ship, which is:
P =√(DWT) ±50%
Where DWT is the deadweight tonnage, and P is the impact load in meganewtons.
So in this case P=315MN ±50% which is 315000kN or 31500 tonnes of force…
For comparison, I’m working on a project where we’re going to build a new concrete bridge on the ground next to where it needs to go (under a railway) then wait until we have a planned week with no trains running and push it into position using jacks. That bridge is a 60m long 20m wide 8m high concrete box with 1m thick walls and top and bottom slabs, and we think we will need about 30MN to install it (one tenth of the impact load from that ship).
So yeah… that’s quite a hit.
Yeah but long tons or short tons. If they used shorter time maybe the boat would have slipped right between the leg things. The tons were too long. 🪿
#longTonConspiracy #longTonCon
Reminds me of the Canadian Conspiracy Convention, CanConCon.
But can Ken can the long Ton Con on the CanConCon?
Bro, it’s a trillion ton bridge. You’re comparing a bug flying into a windshield and telling me the windshield should break. R u serious 4 real?
Huyuck. Sorry for that. But this is the kind of shit you’re going to have to deal with. So you better have an answer for it.
“If I hit your kneecap with a hammer, I’m only taking out one support, but your hole ass is hitting the ground” seems like a good response
Yeah but it literally floats so how heavy can it be?
Physics does not work that way goodnight!
it floats way better than i do, so it can’t be that much heavier than i am. and let me tell you, there’s no way i could topple a bridge by running into it
But that could mean the ship is actually a witch! And witches do have a history of bringing down bridges.
You see, gravity is just a theory see.
College isn’t a scam per se, but the for-profit system as it exists now totally is. So is the myth that everyone needs a college degree - an increasing number of jobs are removing that requirement because it’s bullshit and actually limits the recruiting pool for a lot of jobs. It also encourages hiring management with degrees but no experience over internally promoting experienced workers without degrees. Ever had a new manager come in, change everything until it all sucks, then get a promotion or new job a year or two later? A lot of college degrees are mostly just a license to fail upwards.
College isn’t a scam per se, but the for-profit system as it exists now totally is.
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Unrelated to the content, only to the format, but what odd iteration of Facebook(?) or its like is this from? Is this the mobile interface of FB these days?
That’s definitely the official Facebook app, using dark mode. Looks just like mine, right now.
Ok so the bridge collision seems like an obvious accident to me, no questions there from me.
But that photo of the truck I can’t figure out how this happened and I suspect aliens and/or bigfoot might be involved somehow.
Im not sure im going to explain the well, but…
I think they backed into the pole and it bent the bar (or whatever that guard thingy is called) up and under so much so that the pole ended up behind the bottom rail of the bar. The metal bar, then, spang back into place somewhat. And the pole “bent” / angled backward (from the ground). When the trucker tried to moved forward to get off the pole, the pole got snagged in the hole due to the spring action and got ended up getting dragged back to its more upright position, and it ended up as you see it in the picture.
I dont think the hole in the ground from the pole is from it being dragged forward, so much as from it being pushed backwards.
Edit: someone I know that has family that drives trucks says that it also could have occurred if the other trucks on the side weren’t there to begin with and the person was trying to turn and the trailer swung out and the pole got dragged past the first hole and into the second hole. I’m kinda skeptical it could happen that way considering the direction the pole was dragged in the ground but who knows. it’s just another perspective. But he also thinks the picture is photoshopped so…
It makes sense that the trailer backed over the pole so far it got under the bar. But the trail behind the pole indicates that it was dragged forward. It seems like he backed over the pole causing it to bend and go under. Then moved forward causing it to poke out above the rail and then it dragged forward causing the asphalt to be ripped up the way it did.
But why didn’t the bar break? It must be made of alien materials!
And who put the pole in the middle of the parking lot? Probably bigfoot.
Bigfoot is working with the aliens confirmed!
Well, like the pole started out getting dragged backward, and then forward again…the white spot on the ground is where I think the pole originally started out, and there’s damage in front and behind that mark.
I think it didn’t break cause it’s meant to keep cars from plowing underneath the truck. If it broke it would defeat the purpose, and the car would end up with the driver somewhere under the trailer, decapitated or something…
I’ll take aliens and Bigfoot in cahoots too! I bet one of those shape shifting cryptids had a hand in it too.
Same dunce heads who argued against vaccines
It can be a scam, especially if your not gonna use your degree.
That’s not a scam, that’s just called being dumb
I don’t think Knowledge is a scam, but I firmly believe that the current College system(at least in the US) is a scam or at the very least super predatory, it’s one of the only types of debt that you can’t bankrupt on, and if you try to go for anything more than a bachelor’s you’re likely not going to be able to pay off the loan due to interest accumulation.
I would say predatory is the right word, unless you have money.
Although I would not put most community colleges in that boat.
I agree, community colleges generally are going to be at least half the price of a private school, unfortunately in most States community colleges only offer associate’s degree, either by choice or state regulation.
so anyone hoping to do a bachelor’s or a postgraduate degree are forced into larger University Systems where are the price is much higher per year.
True, although many of them also have attached vocational schools. For example, Ivy Tech, Indiana’s community college system (the one I’m most familiar with but it’s not alone in this) offers both vocational and degree programs, so you can get an HVAC certification or you can go through the nursing school and become a CNA. They even offer an associate’s degree in fine arts.
Associate’s degrees aren’t always as good as higher educational degrees, but they will still likely get your into a better career than you would get with just a high school education.
Shame that a lot of universities are starting to ban credits earned at community colleges. Can’t get any more predatory than that.
They are? Yeah, that’s utter bullshit.
Don’t know how long it’s been but there’s a lot of articles popping up within the last couple years on it, saying that various universities rejected credits for what was essentially the same exactly class using the same book and the same curriculum.
Meanwhile I was seeing posts on reddit and other socials talking about how crowded university classrooms were getting, with someone showing a picture that showed how the room was too full to meet standards for fire evacuations if necessary. It’s just absolutely nothing but greed at this point.
That’s fucking ridiculous.
I don’t know what my daughter is going to do when she’s college age. She’s 13 now. It’s only going to get worse.
Hear hear.
I had a better education from more passionate teachers at community college than I did at university.
They didn’t use…ok our colleges now are trades schools you pay to go to. People used to apprentice for careers. Paying for education used to mean an actual education, not job training.
Hell, 3 hours in polybridge would probably give the common sense to realize that supports do in fact, hold the bridge up
If seeing the very clear video of what happened doesn’t convince them, nothing will.
I have no formal training in building bridges. I actually only learned what a bridge was yesterday. Anyway, here’s what I think happened and I will fight anyone who tells me different.
and I will fight anyone who tells me different.
That’ more proactive than most sudden bridge experts who just call anyone who tells them different a liberal cuck.
I mean, colleges are fucking expensive and their biggest appeal is a promise of a high paying job. Even public ones still eat up your soul and you may not necessarily be ready for “the job market” after graduation, or even academic life. Wholly different discussion.
Still, no way in hell I’ll doubt that a bajillion ton (tonnes, whatever) of inertia can bring down a bridge. That’s effectively an asteroid boulder slowly rolling down hill
Same. I was thinking, “yes, college IS a scam, but I wouldn’t argue with most experts in their respective fields.”
I don’t think college is a scam. I think they are way overvalued in America. I think trades should be pushed more for sure.
No matter how you spend your money in this life, it’s only a scam if you believe it is. I could pay a psychic half my salary each year to give me gambling advice and still come out happy if I believe in it all.
It’s your money, use it when YOU need it
You’re the fool they say is going to be parted from his money.
Well I’m happy, and you’re just a stranger on the internet
it’s only a scam if you believe it is.
There’s this thing called “law”, you know, and every country has a number of scams defined as crimes, though some may not fall in those terms. “Feeling happy about it” is what kids these days call copium. Deluding yourself won’t make the decisions good, they’ll still be objectively bad and trying to reframe like that will make you look stupid.
If I voluntarily trade something I have for something I want, and I get that thing, I don’t care whether anyone thinks it’s a scam. If I remain happy, there are 0 victims
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